Dear Jens, Jim, Todd and all, Thanks for your replies and suggestions!
>Yes, you are right, if you do not get your hands on a monitor with >built-in emitter, you'll need ad least a K4000 That is the reason I was looking for the monitor with built-in emitter, because then I could use the much cheaper K600 (about $ 140) instead. When I compare former prices for the VG278HR (about $ 500) plus K600 card, with the bundle of VG278HE (about $ 370) plus K4000 (about $ 700) plus emitter (included in the kit $ 170), there is a difference of about $ 500. So my question is: Is the K4000 really much better than the K600 for crystallographic purposes? Has anybody used similar cards (both) and can tell if this difference is really significant? Some suggestions are that even integrated graphics chips are fine (at least for coot), see here and follow-up messages https://www.mail-archive.com/ccp4bb@jiscmail.ac.uk/msg34801.html But I guess if I cannot find a monitor with built-in emitter, the K4000 plus VG278HE will be one of my few choices.... Thanks and best wishes, Tobias. On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Jens Kaiser <kai...@caltech.edu> wrote: > In addition to what others have -- correctly -- stated I want to add one > more thing: > > Yes, you are right, if you do not get your hands on a monitor with > built-in emitter, you'll need ad least a K4000 and in many cases the > VESA din bracket (~$50). You do not have to buy the expensive ($800+) 3D > Vision pro emitter, though, for about $150 you can get the 3D Vision 2 > (the "2" is important!) kit, that includes the DIN-to-Phone jack cable > (officially for connection to DLP) you'll need to connect the graphics > card to the emitter. Don't use the DP-DVI adapter, there's not enough > bandwidth - go straight out of the DVI and you'll be fine (this > realization cost me a day....). > > HTH, > > Jens > > > On Thu, 2015-01-08 at 15:08 +0100, Tobias Beck wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > > > I am looking again at 3D monitors. Last year I bought for my old lab > > the VG278HR and the PNY K600, as advised by the CCP4BB. (The 3D test > > images from Nvidia were running fine under Windows, but I did not get > > around to finish the set up with pymol and coot under linux.) > > > > > > Now at a new place, I looked at available monitors again (that have > > the built-in emitter since I want to use the K600 graphics card) and > > noticed that the VG278HR is out of stock. The VG278H, which seems to > > be a very similar model, is also out of stock. > > > > > > This page > > > > http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html > > > > also lists the Acer HN274H as a 27'' monitor with built-in emitter, > > but that seems to be out of stock as well (I would prefer not to buy a > > refurbished or used one). The monitors mentioned above are also listed > > here: > > > > http://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Stereo > > > > > > (The smaller BenQ XL2420TX listed there is also out of stock). > > > > > > > > Has anybody ordered a 3D monitor with built-in emitter recently or > > could provide me with a current list of 27'' monitors with built-in > > emitters? I checked with Nvidia via their chat support, but they did > > not have an updated list, just provided links to the manufacturers' > > homepages. > > > > > > If monitors with built-in emitters are not available anymore, I need > > to buy a different graphics card in order for the setup to work with > > linux, right? > > > > > > > > Thank you and best wishes, Tobias. > > > > > > -- > > ___________________________________________ > > > > Dr. Tobias Beck > > - group leader - > > RWTH Aachen University > > Institute of Inorganic Chemistry > > Landoltweg 1, office: 304N > > 52056 Aachen, Germany > > phone: +49-241-80-90057 > > fax: +49-241-80-99003 > > ___________________________________________ > > > > > > > -- ___________________________________________ Dr. Tobias Beck - independent group leader - RWTH Aachen University Institute of Inorganic Chemistry Landoltweg 1, office: 304N 52056 Aachen, Germany phone: +49-241-80-90057 fax: +49-241-80-99003 web: http://www.ac.rwth-aachen.de/extern/beck/ ___________________________________________
