>The rmsZ only says something about the deviations from 'ideal' values given 
>their esd. 

 

Seems that is exactly what I said ;-)

 

Cheers, BR




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Van: [email protected]
Verzonden: ‎6-‎2-‎2015 17:19
Aan: 'Robbie Joosten' <mailto:[email protected]> ; 
[email protected]
Onderwerp: RE: [ccp4bb] Bin R and Rfree values

>please report the bond length and angle rmsZ next to (or instead of) the rmsd 
>in Table 1. 

 

‘Instead’ alone is also not enough – if in a  normalized statistic you do not 
know what you normalized against – that is, the variance or esd of the target 
distribution – you do not know what Z means. For example, I could override the 
default set of my target rmsd in Refmac to what I want in order to manipulate 
the resulting model rmsZ. 

The absolute rmsd value alone also does not tell you about the underlying 
target variance. A bond length rmsd of 0.04A would make you cringe but only 
because you assume you know the unrestrained or true target rmsd of about 
0.02A). One reason why the restraint target table in the PDB header is useful.

 

I think both values, rmsd + rmsZ, or rmsd and target variance or esd, are 
necessary  for getting the complete picture.

 

Best, BR

 

 

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