Dear All,
 
Suppose my protein has 4 same subunits (not exactly 4 subunits, in order to 
explain things clear, it contains not less than 2 identical subunitss), each 
subunit has the potential H-bond involving N of HIS. I have run the 
optimization by both PDB_REDO and the Phenix refine with the phenix flips 
checked.
 
I have checkecd the PDB_REDO refine results and the Phenix refine results, the 
answer is, suppose in PDB_REDO it tells us subunit A has that specific H-bond 
formed, Phenix refine rells us that subunit B has that specific H-bond formed.
 
In fact, supposing it has 4 subunits, the symmetry determines that the 4 
subunits should be identical, and they should all contains the specific 
H-bonds, or all do not contains the specific H-bonds.
 
Any more suggestions welcome.
 
Smith


At 2015-05-20 22:55:13, "Robbie Joosten" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Smith,

Just to contrast Pavel's phenix plug. PDB_REDO does HQN-flips automatically 
based on WHAT _CHECK results and refines your model in Refmac.

Cheers,
Robbie

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Onderwerp: RE: [ccp4bb] HIS related crystallography issue


You can typically assign the histidine orientation based on analysis of the 
hydrogen bond network. In ambiguous cases you might have to look a few residues 
deep. WHAT_CHECK does this for you by a global optimization of the hydrogen 
bond network.

Cheers,
Robbie

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Onderwerp: [ccp4bb] HIS related crystallography issue


Dear All,
 
Suppose the protein crystal resolution is about 2-3A, then in the map it should 
be rather difficult to distinguish the C and N in the sidechain of HIS. In this 
way we may regard the sidechain of HIS is flippable. But suppose in one flipped 
conformation of the HIS, the free N in the sidechain of HIS can form H-bond 
with the neighbour H of the OH of the Thr, in the other flipped conformation of 
the HIS, the free N in the sidechain of HIS cannot form H-bond with the 
neighbour H of the OH of the Thr (caused by distance issue).
 
Suppose whether the H-bond forms between the free N in the sidechain of HIS and 
the neighbour H of the OH of the Thr was very important biologically, in this 
situation how can we distinguish whether the H-bond forms?
 
Smith


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