Dear Mohammed,

As has been mentioned before, the first thing to do is to check your data, is 
it twinned? I would also have a look at the images: are there strong ice rings, 
is the data very anisotropic?

If the data looks ok, the next suspect is the space group. Always let your 
molecular replacement program test all possible space groups! In case you 
tested only C2221, Phaser will place the search molecules in C2221 and Zanuda 
will confirm that molecular replacement had been run in C2221. Zanuda will find 
overlooked cases of higher symmetry, but not incorrectly assigned symmetry, or 
cases where the symmetry is lower. To determine the space group with Zanuda, 
you might want to process und run MR in a lower symmetry space group, e.g. P1 
or C2.

Your diffraction data is a convolution of the molecular transform of your 
protein molecules (alone, without crystal packing) and the transform of the 
crystal packing. This means that if the orientation of your protein molecules 
is correct, but if you misidentified e.g. one screw axis, you may already get 
quite good Rfactors (35-40%) and electron density, and you may even see bound 
ligands. However, the Rfactor is stuck. You may even have non-crystallographic 
symmetry, masquerading as crystallographic symmetry, so I would try processing 
your data in various lower symmetry space groups and run MR in those space 
groups, testing all possibilities!

Best regards,
Herman


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Betreff: [ccp4bb] Rfree stuck at around 39 %

Dear all

I am working on a structure that extends to about 2.5 A (CC* of 0.5) in the SG 
C 2221 (a=134.48, b=424.9, c=84.49). The long b axis is probably why the 
solvent content is 75 % with 2 NCS copies. The images were processed with XDS 
in Xia2.

After building and refining the model (Phenix+Refmac and one round of 
PDB_REDO), the Rwork/Rfree is about 34/39 %. Even the addition of water 
molecules does not change this, although only less than 10 molecules can be 
placed.

I ran Zanuda from the old GUI on my data and model - it suggests that the 
original SG is the correct one. I can easily see the density for my 
naturally-bound ligands (heme and iron-sulfur cluster), which makes me think 
the solution from Phaser run is indeed (almost) correct. The model statistics 
are also fairly good - Molprobity clashscore 37, RMSD angles 1.39, RMSD bonds 
0.007, average B 90.4. Some loops have poor density, so I built them manually 
after superposing the NCS copies.

Is there a list of things that I should check to identify the source of the 
problem?

Thanks.
Mohamed

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