Dear Eugene,

This is only in dials.index, and even then it is only in the initial maximum 
cell estimation that reflections from ice rings are excluded by default. They 
are included in the basis vector determination and further refinement. If you 
wish to exclude ice ring reflections from all steps of indexing you need to 
filter ice rings in dials.find_spots.

For dials.integrate see:

http://dials.github.io/documentation/programs/dials_integrate.html

The parameter filter.ice_rings=false by default.

Cheers,

Richard

Dr Richard Gildea
Data Analysis Scientist
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________________________________
From: Eugene Osipov [[email protected]]
Sent: 10 December 2016 17:21
To: Gildea, Richard (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
Cc: ccp4bb
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] why pointless does not give statistics (CC1/2; N_CC; 
CCfit...) in certain resolution bin

Dear RIchard,
It is probably my problems with understanding.
>From this page:
http://dials.sourceforge.net/documentation/programs/dials_index.html

I understood that :

filter_ice = True

is default parameter and by default DIALS will not consider spots at typical 
ice resolutions. Or it is only true before refinement procedure?



2016-12-10 18:05 GMT+03:00 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
"E.g. DIALS by default do not process reflections near ice rings,"

I'm not sure where you got this information from, but this is not correct - by 
default DIALS will process all reflections.

Cheers,

Richard

Dr Richard Gildea
Data Analysis Scientist
Tel: +441235 77 8078

Diamond Light Source Ltd.
Diamond House
Harwell Science & Innovation Campus
Didcot
Oxfordshire
OX11 0DE
________________________________
From: CCP4 bulletin board [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] 
on behalf of Eugene Osipov [[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: 10 December 2016 13:39
To: ccp4bb
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] why pointless does not give statistics (CC1/2; N_CC; 
CCfit...) in certain resolution bin

E.g. DIALS by default do not process reflections near ice rings,

2016-12-09 21:05 GMT+03:00 Phil Evans 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>:
For some reason there is no data in that resolution bin

Phil

> On 9 Dec 2016, at 17:30, Xiao Lei 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>>
>  wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have an x ray diffraction dataset of protein and dna complex processed with 
> pointless and I am trying to get the resolution cut for this data, the result 
> is below, I do not know why in the N=23 (Dmid=3.68) bin, there is no 
> statistic of CC(1/2), N_cc, CCfit, etc?  The program just put a "-" sign into 
> it.  I guess if this means something bad probably I have to cut the 
> resolution to 3.7A.
>
> $TABLE: Mn(I/sigI) and CC(1/2) [in P1] vs. resolution:
> $GRAPHS:Resolution estimate 3.89A:0.000213587|0.0981986x0|1:2,4,6,7,9:
>  $$
>   N  1/d^2    Dmid CC(1/2)   N_CC   CCfit  Mn(I/sigI)      N (I/sigI)/10   $$ 
> $$
>   1  0.0018  23.27   0.939     51   0.990       92.43    142       9.243
>   2  0.0051  13.99   0.993    210   0.987       72.33    607       7.233
>   3  0.0084  10.92   0.984    323   0.984       61.77    937       6.177
>   4  0.0116   9.27   0.974    344   0.981       54.77   1030       5.477
>   5  0.0149   8.19   0.969    486   0.976       29.98   1412       2.998
>   6  0.0182   7.42   0.961    491   0.971       13.24   1459       1.324
>   7  0.0214   6.83   0.879    535   0.964        8.75   1558       0.875
>   8  0.0247   6.36   0.885    597   0.956        6.70   1755       0.670
>   9  0.0280   5.98   0.939    693   0.947        7.16   2003       0.716
>  10  0.0312   5.66   0.807    697   0.935        4.97   2042       0.497
>  11  0.0345   5.38   0.815    757   0.921        5.53   2195       0.553
>  12  0.0378   5.15   0.910    878   0.904        6.08   2547       0.608
>  13  0.0410   4.94   0.913    890   0.884        7.49   2582       0.749
>  14  0.0443   4.75   0.906    934   0.861        7.42   2710       0.742
>  15  0.0476   4.58   0.824    976   0.834        5.06   2695       0.506
>  16  0.0508   4.44   0.812   1010   0.802        5.32   2859       0.532
>  17  0.0541   4.30   0.843   1099   0.767        5.25   3126       0.525
>  18  0.0574   4.17   0.862   1030   0.727        4.49   2790       0.449
>  19  0.0606   4.06   0.752   1115   0.683        3.04   2927       0.304
>  20  0.0639   3.96   0.675    439   0.636        2.53   1117       0.253
>  21  0.0672   3.86   0.139    176   0.586        1.64    393       0.164
>  22  0.0704   3.77   0.734   1082   0.534        2.65   2641       0.265
>  23  0.0737   3.68    -         -    -            -        -        -
>  24  0.0770   3.60   0.489    681   0.429        2.20   1633       0.220
>  25  0.0802   3.53   0.358   1430   0.378        1.85   3248       0.185
>  26  0.0835   3.46  -0.428     12   0.330        1.38     22       0.138
>  27  0.0868   3.39   0.390    663   0.285        1.73   1404       0.173
>  28  0.0900   3.33   0.128   1443   0.244        1.39   2946       0.139
>  29  0.0933   3.27   0.149   1372   0.207        1.37   2835       0.137
>  30  0.0966   3.22   0.183   1578   0.175        1.40   3202       0.140
>
> Thanks ahead.



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Laboratory of Enzyme Engineering
A.N. Bach Institute of Biochemistry
Russian Academy of Sciences
Leninsky pr. 33, 119071 Moscow, Russia
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