The reason behind this query is that I want to illustrate the power of prior 
knowledge in data analysis. I want to say something like “even though atoms 
cannot be directly observed at worse than X resolution, which represents Y% of 
the PDB, all of these data sets have been fit correctly with atomic models. 
This is due entirely to the power of the excellent priors which exist in 
crystallography.”

JPK

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From: Thomas Edwards [mailto:t.a.edwa...@leeds.ac.uk]
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 2:59 PM
To: Keller, Jacob <kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] "Atomic resolution"

Dear Jacob,

Ah... this old chestnut!

Current EM people say that they are at atomic resolution because they are 
building atomic models (naive??).

I have been criticised in the past for using the term with say 2.2A diffraction 
data. By co-authors and reviewers alike. When I was young and naive.

My (current) definition would be yours - visible with data.
I think 1.5A is about right for X-ray. Maybe higher res?

I’m sure there are lots of rigorous ways to think. I probably haven’t taken 
that route. However, I think it is a semantic problem that might benefit from 
some disambiguation rather than rigour.

It depends why you are asking the question...

Sorry..!
Ed is: Out and about...
Sent from iPhone6sPlus.

On 11 Jan 2018, at 19:31, Keller, Jacob 
<kell...@janelia.hhmi.org<mailto:kell...@janelia.hhmi.org>> wrote:
Dear Crystallographers,

Has there been a consensus as to what is meant by “atomic resolution?” Seems 
like the term is taken by various practitioners to mean different things.

A related question: at what resolution are atoms “visible” using only the data? 
I have an empirical feeling that this would be around 1.5 Ang Bragg spacings, 
but on the other hand, one can contour up most maps and see individual atom 
peaks. I would be interested to hear a more rigorous way to think about this.

All the best,

Jacob Keller

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