Can you attach the refinement log?

Eleanor

On 10 August 2018 at 16:57, Marcelo Liberato <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Randy,
>
> Thank you very much for answering. I followed your suggestions but,
> unfortunately, I couldn't get a reasonable electron density map after MR
> and refinement.
>
>
> First I would look at the data to see if you have ice rings, because the
>> peak in mean intensity and second moment of the intensity at about 2.25A
>> resolution suggests an ice ring problem.  If so, you should make sure you
>> don't contaminate the data with spurious large intensities.
>>
>> Indeed, the data has ice rings. At first, I required imosflm to remove
> ice rings, but it didn't happened. So, I re-processed the data in different
> space groups removing the ice rings.
>
> Second, the statistics (e.g. the second moments plot after tNCS correction
>> in Phaser) would be consistent with a scenario in which you have
>> pseudosymmetry along with a twin operator that parallels the
>> pseudosymmetry.  If that's true, it's hard to be sure of the symmetry.  For
>> instance, if the structure really is monoclinic, can you be sure you chose
>> the correct axis to be the 2-fold?
>>
>
> I am not sure. However, I tried two possible axis to be the 2-fold and
> none of them gave me reasonable maps after MR and refinement.
>
>
>>
>> Since you have a good model that gives clear MR solutions even in P21,
>> you can probably process the data in P1 and solve it with 8 copies in the
>> unit cell.  Then you can look at the symmetry of the MR solution (e.g. in
>> Zanuda) and see whether it obeys any higher symmetry than P1.
>>
>
> I processed data in P1. After MR (with 8 copies in the ASU), it resulted
> in TFZ=11.6 and LLG=1434. But the map is still bad and high Rwork and
> Rfree.
> According to Zanuda, the data should be P21:
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>    | >>   4   | P 1 21 1   | 68.6868  |  0.6289  |  0.5487  |  0.5523  |
>
>    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>    |      1   | P 1        | 69.4151  |  0.6171  |  0.5471  |  0.5559  |
>
>    |      4   | P 1 21 1   | 69.3810  |    --    |  0.5482  |  0.5442  |
>
>    |     11   | P 21 21 21 | 52.0271  |    --    |  0.6107  |  0.6178  |
>
>    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>    | <<   4   | P 1 21 1   | 69.3810  |    --    |  0.5482  |  0.5442  |
>
>    ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I processed in P21 using two different unit cells, and MR resulted in TFZ=20.8
> and LLG=511, and TFZ=56 and LLG=2867. However, again, no good maps and
> statistics.
>
> Best regards
>
> Marcelo Liberato
>
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