Hi Christian,

Yes, I used TLS refinement for all the structures I deposited … but the TLS 
parameters were included in the deposition task, so I  assumed the programme 
would know that it needs to take these into account.


Anyway …  I guess that in order to correct the remarks in the headers of the 
curated coordinates in the PDB, I'll have to alter all the cif files manually 
and then resubmit them to the deposition server.


Cheers,


Tony


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From: Christian Roth <christianroth...@gmail.com>
Sent: 02 October 2018 20:52
To: Antonio Ariza; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] conversion from pdb to cif format changes R factors ... 
why?


Hi Tony,


is that for all structures or just some? I recall there was a problem when one 
has used TLS refinement. The deposition task runs a 0 cycle refmac job to 
recreate the statistics. If there is a difference, e.g no TLS included that 
might explain the difference.


Cheers


Christian

Am 02.10.2018 um 19:25 schrieb Antonio Ariza:

Hi all,


I'm wondering if anyone else has noticed this ... or is there something I am 
missing here?


One of the reviewers of my latest manuscript just pointed out that the R 
factors in my validation reports are significantly different (i.e. worse) than 
those I stated in the paper. So, I checked and indeed they are. I tracked the 
difference in the numbers down to the point where I used "Prepare files for 
deposition" in ccp4i2. This is the first time I used this programme to convert 
my pdb and mtz files into cif files, instead of trying to deposit the pdb and 
mtz files as I've always done. The conversion, however, changed the R factors 
... and seemingly nothing else as the coordinates of  both files are still the 
same.


Any idea why the programme does this? Is there another programme I can use that 
doesn't do this? It's annoying because now I have to redeposit the data for the 
10 structures I've submitted for this paper.


Here are the remarks of the pdb file and the remarks of the resulting cif file, 
as you can see they are the same except for the R factors.


PDB:

REMARK   3  DATA USED IN REFINEMENT.
REMARK   3   RESOLUTION RANGE HIGH (ANGSTROMS) :   1.67
REMARK   3   RESOLUTION RANGE LOW  (ANGSTROMS) :  49.13
REMARK   3   DATA CUTOFF            (SIGMA(F)) : NONE
REMARK   3   COMPLETENESS FOR RANGE        (%) :  97.26
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS             :   35463
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  FIT TO DATA USED IN REFINEMENT.
REMARK   3   CROSS-VALIDATION METHOD          : THROUGHOUT
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE TEST SET SELECTION  : RANDOM
REMARK   3   R VALUE     (WORKING + TEST SET) : 0.20233
REMARK   3   R VALUE            (WORKING SET) :  0.20068
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE                     :  0.23658
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE TEST SET SIZE   (%) :  4.7
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE TEST SET COUNT      :  1759
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  FIT IN THE HIGHEST RESOLUTION BIN.
REMARK   3   TOTAL NUMBER OF BINS USED           :      20
REMARK   3   BIN RESOLUTION RANGE HIGH           :    1.670
REMARK   3   BIN RESOLUTION RANGE LOW            :    1.714
REMARK   3   REFLECTION IN BIN     (WORKING SET) :     2221
REMARK   3   BIN COMPLETENESS (WORKING+TEST) (%) :    82.65
REMARK   3   BIN R VALUE           (WORKING SET) :    0.392
REMARK   3   BIN FREE R VALUE SET COUNT          :      113
REMARK   3   BIN FREE R VALUE                    :    0.390



CIF:

REMARK   3  DATA USED IN REFINEMENT.
REMARK   3   RESOLUTION RANGE HIGH (ANGSTROMS) :   1.67
REMARK   3   RESOLUTION RANGE LOW  (ANGSTROMS) :  49.13
REMARK   3   DATA CUTOFF            (SIGMA(F)) : NONE
REMARK   3   COMPLETENESS FOR RANGE        (%) :  97.26
REMARK   3   NUMBER OF REFLECTIONS             :   35463
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  FIT TO DATA USED IN REFINEMENT.
REMARK   3   CROSS-VALIDATION METHOD          : THROUGHOUT
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE TEST SET SELECTION  : RANDOM
REMARK   3   R VALUE     (WORKING + TEST SET) : 0.24316
REMARK   3   R VALUE            (WORKING SET) :  0.24133
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE                     :  0.28140
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE TEST SET SIZE   (%) :  4.7
REMARK   3   FREE R VALUE TEST SET COUNT      :  1759
REMARK   3
REMARK   3  FIT IN THE HIGHEST RESOLUTION BIN.
REMARK   3   TOTAL NUMBER OF BINS USED           :      20
REMARK   3   BIN RESOLUTION RANGE HIGH           :    1.670
REMARK   3   BIN RESOLUTION RANGE LOW            :    1.714
REMARK   3   REFLECTION IN BIN     (WORKING SET) :     2221
REMARK   3   BIN COMPLETENESS (WORKING+TEST) (%) :    82.65
REMARK   3   BIN R VALUE           (WORKING SET) :    0.426
REMARK   3   BIN FREE R VALUE SET COUNT          :      113
REMARK   3   BIN FREE R VALUE                    :    0.429



Cheers,


Tony


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