I can second the recommendation of the Mol* project.

 

Some of the data which is used for Olderado and Vivaldi is now part of the 
wwPDB validation report. 

 

This data is available from the PDBe API

http://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbe/api/doc/validation.html

 

Additional data NMR validation data is planned to be added to the wwPDB 
validation report later this year. 

 

This data will be displayed in Mol* on PDBe webpages when Mol* is incorporated 
into our web pages. 

 

John

 

From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Jose Duarte
Sent: 19 March 2019 18:33
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Java based structural database websites

 

Indeed java in the browser was killed a long time ago.

 

But the good news is that plenty of alternatives exist, written in native (to 
the browser) javascript. Wikipedia has a nice compilation of the different 
viewers, under the "Web-based systems" section:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_molecular_graphics_systems

 

I would particularly recommend the Mol* project:

 

https://molstar.org/

 

Jose

 

 

On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 10:37, Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com 
<mailto:robbie_joos...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Hi Nick,

 

A bit of a hack I suppose, but you could use a (single use) VM with some old 
windows version that still works. 

E-mailing the developers directly is the way to go to figure out whether you 
can expect an update.

 

We had a similar problem with our own webserver (the Crystallographic Construct 
Designer ccd.rhpc.nki.nl <http://ccd.rhpc.nki.nl> ) which was completely a java 
applet. The only real solution was a full rewrite. But that requires funding 
which  we luckily got from the West-Life project. 

Keeping websites online is is not easy with changing technology and getting 
funding is hard because it is not new science.

 

Cheers,

Robbie

 

 

 

On 19 Mar 2019 17:43, Nicholas Keep <n.k...@mail.cryst.bbk.ac.uk 
<mailto:n.k...@mail.cryst.bbk.ac.uk> > wrote:

This is slightly off topic but I suspect people from PDBe etc read this 
bulletin board. 

Quite a number of very useful structural biology web sites (Olderado, 
Vivaldi, EMDB to name but a few) require java based viewers and hence no 
longer have full (or in the case of vivaldi any) functionality on up to 
date browsers. 

On a new computer it may prove hard or even impossible to find a browser 
that will work 

Are there plans to update these websites and is there any suggeted time 
scale? 

Any work rounds? 

Best wishes 

Nick 

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