Hi Almudena,

in case you should have tiny spots (which would surprise me in this resolution 
shell), you could play
with the  MINIMUM_NUMBER_OF_PIXELS_IN_A_SPOT parameter in the XDS.INP file. Of 
course, this
also depends on the detector you used; however, it sometimes makes sense to 
decrease it to allow
the program to find more spots and to change the criteria for a strong spot 
(STRONG_PIXEL=3.0).

The same can be done with DIALS; in the spotfinding step; you can change the 
spotsize:

dials.find_spots datablock.json min_spot_size=2
or the criterium for a strong spot

dials.find_spots datablock.json  sigma_background=6 sigma_strong=3





Good luck,



Selina






From: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> on behalf of Almudena Ponce 
Salvatierra <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Almudena Ponce Salvatierra <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, 19 April 2019 at 19:12
To: ccp4bb <[email protected]>
Subject: [ccp4bb] pointless warning - space group ambiguity


Dear all,



I'm processing my data with XDS and with DIALS and at first sight it would seem 
reasonable to assume that the Laue group is

either orthorrombic or monoclinic. Autoprocessing brings me always to P212121, 
but I have tried also to solve the

structure in space groups 1, 3, 4, 16, 17 and 18, without success.

Pointless gives the following warning:

WARNING:  The data were integrated on a primitive lattice, but show some 
apparent features of a centered

  lattice of type I, Mean(E^2) for lattice absences = 1.15

 However, it might be pseudo-centered, due to translational 
non-crystallographic symmetry

 Mn(I/sigI) for potentially absent reflections in the first  7 resolution bins 
= 4.76 is significantly above 0.0

Rough estimated probability of true centering = 0.714

NB: I lattice was chosen for further analysis rather than lattice type I



Best Solution:    space group P 21 21 21



   Reindex operator:                   [h,k,l]

   Laue group probability:             0.762

   Systematic absence probability:     0.682

   Total probability:                  0.520

   Space group confidence:             0.478

   Laue group confidence               0.702



However XDS doesn't give me option to choose any other lattices if not those in 
which I have already failed to

solve the structure, those marked with starts that are consistent with the 
observed locations of the diffraction spots.



So, I don't know what to do, I'm guessing it could be that it is C222, C2221 or 
C2 as well... but when I try space groups 5, 20 or 21 XDS

gets stalled and DIALS can not proceed with the step of refinement.



I'll be very thankful for any suggestions on how to continue on this venture...



Have a nice weekend and a happy Easter!



Best,



Almudena

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