Dear Mike and Andrew,

I've since updated to a later version of ccp4 (7.0.076) and now have the XMLOUT 
tags specified automatically. Woops!

Thanks for that error log Andrew - I had a look at the aimless.script file to 
see how that filename was generated, and looked up the command on the CCP4 
developer's guide for programmers.

Image hosted remotely to avoid mailbox indigestion: 
https://www.hginn.co.uk/ccp4bb/aimless_script.png

Here, the variable `root` is set to [SetOutputFileRoot], defined in the bottom 
half of the image online, and is used to generate the Pointless XML file path. 
It is also used later and may cause similar problems for AIMLESS's output of 
.scales, graphs and other logs, so there is an underlying problem that ought to 
be solved for Mike.

It seems that in order to have a filepath in the root of the filesystem itself 
(which is reassuringly non-writeable), judging from the definition, the project 
directory would have to be an empty string. None of the pointless GUI scripts 
rely on [SetOutputFileRoot], which would be consistent with the fact they work 
for Mike.

So it might be worth Mike checking this: in the main window of the ccp4i 
interface, click Change Project and then Add/Edit Project. Find the project you 
are working on and confirm the directory path for your current project is a 
subdirectory in your home directory.

Best wishes
Helen

On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 13:54:20 +0100
Andrew Leslie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Mike and Helen,
> 
> As I understand it, the XML is only written when POINTLESS/AIMLESS are run 
> through the CCP4 GUI and the command comes from the GUI script, so there is 
> no way you can turn this off from POINTLESS itself. 
> 
> However, if you use the “Run&View com file” option from CCP4i GUI, you will 
> see the XMLOUT command there (see attached figure). If you delete this (for 
> both POINTLESS and AIMLESS and CTRUNCATE) then the jobs will run and produce 
> an MTZ file, but it did give a "job failed" message:
> 
> #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 Error from script 
> /Applications/ccp4-7.0/share/ccp4i/scripts/aimless.script: couldn't open 
> "/Users/andrew/g4/MOSFLM/camillo/camillo_1_pointless.xml": no such file or 
> directory
> 
> However the MTZ file was there.
> 
> Did your job produce a final  MTZ file in spite of the warning?
> 
> I’m afraid I don’t understand why the XML file was not written in your case, 
> are you sure the path shown in the “Command Line” output from the GUI is OK 
> for writing to?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11 Jul 2019, at 13:34, Helen Ginn <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Mike,
>> 
>> No problem! Happy to provide suggestions, though I'd prefer to be addressed 
>> directly on here.
>> 
>> Here's another suggestion, no promises. If you can provide more detail on 
>> the GUI input and the output log files, it would be easier to know why this 
>> is happening in the first place. However, you can also click and hold "Run" 
>> in ccp4i and select "Run&View Com File". Then you will receive each 
>> program's command line input and you can edit them before you run them. I 
>> suggest removing or correcting any instances of `XMLOUT <filename>`.  
>> 
>> Thanks Andrew for confirming with Phil on the behaviour of pointless. I have 
>> looked at the ccp4i interface and cannot find any option for enabling XML 
>> output for pointless in the Symmetry/scale/merge pipeline. The option to 
>> output to XML in the standalone pointless does not seem to transfer this to 
>> the command line options, but Mike is probably using the former GUI input 
>> window anyway. As such I'm not sure where the XMLOUT command is coming from.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> Helen
>> 
>>> Dear Andrew,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your suggestion. Yes, you are right that the error is because 
>>> .xml file is not being written. but not able to find the reasons...I 
>>> checked...Disk space is free and have permission to write also. I could 
>>> able to run Pointless, but not Aimless. 
>>> 
>>> Any other reason??
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 5:37 PM Andrew Leslie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I think Helen’s answer is absolutely right. I asked Phil Evans about this 
>>> when I saw him yesterday, and he said that error usually arises when it is 
>>> not possible to write the xml file, either because a disk is full, or 
>>> because you do not have permission to write to that area.
>>> 
>>>  Andrew
>>> 
>>>>  On 3 Jul 2019, at 15:09, Mike Xishan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>>  Sorry for asking for a very naive question that might be asked before.
>>>> 
>>>>  After integration, I am trying to do "data reduction" through Aimless, 
>>>> but task fails with an error message as
>>>> 
>>>>  #CCP4I TERMINATION STATUS 0 "FILEIO: cannot open file 
>>>> /Processing1_8_pointless.xml
>>>> 
>>>>  I really appreciate for your opinion and help to fix this problem.
>>>> 
>>>>  Thanks, 
>>>> 
>>>>  Mike
>>>> 
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