Hi Eugene,

We recently had this with a student as well and at least in PDB format the 
files are salvageable by doing a simple search and replace from , to .

Rather than going completely American, you can also just change the number 
format. In Windows 10 this is 
Settings > Time & Language > Data, time, & regional formatting (hidden on the 
right) > Additional data, time, & regional settings > Change data, time, or 
number formats > Additional settings

Only "decimal symbol" and "Digit grouping symbol" need to be set to . and , 
respectively. 

Cheers,
Robbie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Eugene
> Krissinel
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 12:47
> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: Refmac error
> 
> Dear Nadine,
> 
> Many thanks for sharing your project with me on CCP4 Cloud. The reason for
> Refmac failure is absolutely clear: the previous Coot job exported PDB file,
> using commas (wie im besten Deutsch) instead of periods (as we would
> expect in best English) for all float-point numbers. You can see it if you go 
> to
> the previous Coot job report, scroll down to "Output Structure", press
> "Display" and scroll down a bit.
> 
> This effect is known to be peculiar to WinCoot -- have you used Windows
> machine to run Coot in job 179? And had you used a different machine to
> run Coot in job 169, which produced output file in correct format?
> 
> The only way to cope with the situation, known to me, is to ensure that your
> Windows machine uses US/English locale settings. This takes tweaking
> Language settings in Windows Control Panel and rebooting the machine.
> Regrettably, you will have to repeat job 179 in new locale. If it contains
> particularly valuable results that are difficult to reproduce, let me know 
> and I
> will advise you of the rescue procedure.
> 
> Admittedly, you are by far not the only one who encounters this problem,
> which appears in all locales with float point formats different from
> US/English. Therefore, I cc WinCoot developer on this email (they are aware
> anyway, and are working on the issue), as well as CCP4 BB list, where you
> placed your request initially, for other CCP4 users to be aware of this
> feature. And there is an obvious homework for us here at CCP4.
> 
> Once again, many thanks for your report. Please unshare this project now
> (simply remove my login name where you have put it for sharing before).
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Eugene
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 9:52 AM Nadine Gerlach <ngerl...@marum.de
> <mailto:ngerl...@marum.de> > wrote:
> 
> 
>       Hey Eugene,
> 
>       actually this happend not just for one project of mine, but I shared
> one project with you now. Scroll down to the last refmac run after model
> building with coot. I just tried it again but it is still the same result.
> 
>       Thanks for the help!!
> 
>       Nadine
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       Am 28.05.2020 um 19:28 schrieb Eugene Krissinel:
> 
> 
>               Dear Nadine,
> 
>               We would need more information on what happens. You can
> share your project with me and I can have a look at it. To share the project,
> open it, then push Main Manu button in top-left corner, choose "Share" and
> set my login name (eugene), then confirm to me by e-mail. Your data and
> project will be treated as confidential.
> 
>               Many thanks for writing to us (use c...@ccp4.ac.uk
> <mailto:c...@ccp4.ac.uk>  rather than BB list for this type of queries please)
> 
>               Eugene
> 
> 
>               ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>               From: Nadine Gerlach <ngerl...@marum.de
> <mailto:ngerl...@marum.de> >
>               Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 at 14:21
>               Subject: Refmac error
>               To: <ccp4bb-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk <mailto:CCP4BB-
> requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
>               Hey everybody,
> 
>               I am running refmac in CCP4 ccloud after Coot and I get this
> error message:
> 
>                *** error running refmac5: Error in command.call
>               Return code: 512
> 
>               Any held is really appreaciated!
> 
>               Best wishes,
>               Nadine
>               --
>               Nadine Gerlach
>               PhD candidate
>               MPG MARUM Bridge Group Marine Glycobiology
>               MARUM, University Bremen & Max Planck Institute for
> Marine Microbiology
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> Microbiology
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