Thanks for the clarification Dave, I completely agree that this is a very 
useful resource, but I can also understand why things are not always kept fully 
up-to-date.

Perhaps it would be useful if people notify the appropriate beam line team when 
they notice that the details on the Biosync website are out-of-date? I had not 
realised that the pages could be edited.

Best wishes,

Andrew


> On 27 Jun 2020, at 12:22, Hall, Dave (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI) 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Dear Andrew, Rasmus,
> 
> The pages are updated by the beamline teams typically. This is another set of 
> pages to keep up to date alongside their own websites (and others) so 
> sometimes can get overlooked when updates are made to beamlines or staff 
> change. However in spite of some out of date information they are a useful 
> set of webpages to get a snapshot in one place of beamlines across the world, 
> detector history and contact details, and for facility people the deposition 
> statistics pages are an incredibly useful tool for many reasons.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 27/06/2020, 12:11, "CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Andrew Leslie" 
> <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>    Dear Rasmus,
> 
>                       Yes, I remember that the last time I looked at it 
> (which is probably 2 years ago) I also found beamlines where the details were 
> clearly not up-to-date. I see from the website that BioSync was funded by NIH 
> and NIGMS from 2016-2018, so maybe there is no funding to keep things up to 
> date, which is a pity.
> 
>    Best wishes,
> 
>    Andrew
>> On 27 Jun 2020, at 10:40, Rasmus Fogh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> The link http://biosync.rcsb.org/index.jsp looked very interesting, but a 
>> cursory look found the following line in a beamline description:
>> 
>> "Next proposal submission period Mid 2013"
>> 
>> Not 100% up to date, then.
>> 
>> Yours,
>> Rasmus
>> 
>> On 25/06/2020 09:36, Andrew Leslie wrote:
>>> Dear Morpholino,
>>> I think 10 microns or under is a reasonable way to define a micro focus 
>>> beam line. There is a list of all MX beamlines at the following web site:
>>> http://biosync.rcsb.org/index.jsp
>>> This gives details of each beam line, including beam size, but you would 
>>> have to go through them all to find the actual number. Also I’m not totally 
>>> sure how often this is updated.
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Andrew
>>>> On 24 Jun 2020, at 23:23, Murpholino Peligro <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That's a good point...
>>>> I was thinking that a decent crystal has a size in the hundreds of 
>>>> micrometers (say 100 in a, b and c). So, with such a specimen we can use 
>>>> any MX beamline.
>>>> But if the crystal is smaller (say 10 micrometers in a, b and c) You must 
>>>> use a microfocus beamline.
>>>> *Please correct me if I am wrong.*
>>>> So what are the number of MX beamlines that can get useful data from 
>>>> smaller crystals (as defined above)?....
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again
>>>> 
>>>> El mié., 24 de jun. de 2020 a la(s) 13:02, James Holton ([email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>) escribió:
>>>> 
>>>>   Define "micro focus" ?
>>>> 
>>>>   -James Holton
>>>>   MAD Scientist
>>>> 
>>>>   On 6/24/2020 9:18 AM, Murpholino Peligro wrote:
>>>>>   I would like to know how many MX beamlines are micro focus?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Thanks.
>>>>> 
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