Hi Monika.
Can you please give us some more information about the ITC experiments? Does 
the affinity change between maltose, maltotriose, maltotetraose and 
maltopentaose or do they all bind equally strong? And, does N stay at roughly 
equimolar ratios or is there a trend from 1 towards 0.2 for the wt protein 
(assuming your protein has one site to bind one titrand)?
I have attached a pdf to make it a bit easier to show. It could either be that 
maltose binds much weaker than the pentamer or that the pentamer binds with 1:5 
stoichiometry. In both cases you are able to get an affinity for the pentamer 
but not for the monomer, whose saturation curve would be too flat to fit. Do 
you see any dH for the maltose and maltotriose with the mutant, or is it just 
linear and not fittable like the red curve in the pdf?
The reason that you see them however in the structure could be because of 
higher protein concentration and excess. Saturation depends on both variables. 
You use 100x molar excess in the crystallization droplet, and maybe a higher 
protein concentration to easily saturate a weak interaction of, say 5-8mM. In a 
crystal you got even higher protein concentration which would allow the mutant 
to bind maltose and maltotriose even better.

So, if you see indeed some dH released by the maltose binding to your mutant, I 
would first try to push the syringe and cell concentrations to the limit. If 
you see no dH change, follow Philippe's suggestion and changing the temperature 
would be a good idea.


best, matthias


Dr. Matthias Barone

AG Kuehne, Rational Drug Design

Leibniz-Forschungsinstitut für Molekulare Pharmakologie (FMP)
Robert-Rössle-Strasse 10
13125 Berlin

Germany
Phone: +49 (0)30 94793-284

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Monika
Did you try ITC experiments at different temperatures ?
Delta H may be null, or close to zero, at some temperature without implying 
that there is no binding !
Philippe Dumas

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Objet: [ccp4bb] Regarding difference in ITC and structure data

Dear All,
I am working on a carbohydrate-binding protein, which co-crystallizes with 
maltose, maltotriose, maltotetraose and maltopentaose and the same can be 
supported by ITC experiments as well. Also, the mutant protein (X2Y) 
co-crystallizes with maltose, maltotriose, maltotetraose and maltopentaose, 
however, the binding of only maltotriose and maltotetraose could be observed 
through ITC. For your information, the ITC conditions are the same for all the 
ligands and the ligand concentration used in ITC is same as used in 
crystallization (100x of protein concentrations). Moreover, from structural 
analysis, we have observed that the binding mode of all ligands is the same.
I request your suggestion on why maltose and maltopentaose do not show any 
binding to the mutant protein in ITC experiments.
Looking forward to suggestions.

Best Regards,
Monika

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