Two questions

(1) What is the rotation+translation operation that relates
    solution #1 an solution #2? 

(2) Have you double-checked and then checked yet again that both
    solutions are in P43212?  Could it be that one of them ended
    up in, say, P414241?

        it's happened to me :-(   
        Ethan


On Sunday, 5 September 2021 21:45:39 PDT Lande Fu wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> 
> Recently I had a strange problem related to MR and it confused me and my 
> colleagues a lot. 
> 
> My protein crystal was diffracted at 2.63A and I processed it normally then 
> did MR with Phaser (in P432(1)2). The result itself looked okay and well fit 
> the map. However, the R-work/ R-free value was stuck at 0.3012/0.2434 after 
> cycles of manual refinement. Then I redid MR with another model from PDB 
> website and got another solution which looked similar to previous one and the 
> R-work/ R-free value can be lowered to 0.2496/0.1967 after refinement. 
> 
> Strange things appeared when I opened the two MR solutions in single coot 
> window (Fig 1). The two models were neither overlaying each other nor on the 
> symmetry of the other. The two models are nearly identical (actually the 
> first model was a previous structure built from PDB model) and have same 
> construct with my protein. There is no TNCS, twinning or other noticeable 
> problems detected according to aimless log. 
> 
> My question is: why phaser gives two different solutions from same map and 
> similar model and result in different R-work/ R-free value? Does that mean 
> there are two phases in the map? Does that imply multiple lattices in my 
> crystal?  
> 
> I tried to research myself but did not find any related explanation for it. 
> Please let me know if you need more information. Thank you in ahead.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Lande Fu


-- 
Ethan A Merritt
Biomolecular Structure Center,  K-428 Health Sciences Bldg
MS 357742,   University of Washington, Seattle 98195-7742

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