Hi Jon

Just checked an mmCIF file for one of the AlphaFold models - the model number 
is “1”, no sign of a model 0 that I can see…

A quick “sed” script could sort them all out…

Harry

> On 10 Nov 2021, at 12:22, Jon Agirre <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> It might be, because the mmCIF versions work fine with MG.
> 
> On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 at 12:16, Harry Powell - CCP4BB 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi folks
> 
> Been a while, but I’ve been doing some work on checking that some files are 
> valid PDB files and went back to the documentation; as far as I can work out, 
> the best solution to this is John Walker’s, because “MODEL 0” is not allowed 
> in the standard (maybe it is for mmCIF…) - 
> 
> > On 27 Aug 2021, at 16:39, John R. Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > I just change MODEL 0 to MODEL 1 then it works fine.
> > 
> > John
> 
> As far as I can see (from a small sample of the 150,000 AlphaFold models, 
> soon to be a few more...) all the PDB files downloadable from 
> alphafold.ebi.ac.uk are non-conformant. The documentation on PDB files that I 
> have been able to find easily says - 
> 
> > Details 
> > 
> > * This record is used only when more than one model appears in an entry. 
> > Generally, it is 
> > employed only for NMR structures. The chemical connectivity should be the 
> > same for each model. 
> > ATOM, HETATM, SIGATM, SIGUIJ, ANISOU, and TER records for each model 
> > structure are 
> > interspersed as needed between MODEL and ENDMDL records. 
> > 
> > * The numbering of models is sequential beginning with 1. 
> 
> Harry 
> 
> > 
> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 11:03 AM Schreuder, Herman /DE 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Dear Nick,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I had just looked at a pdb downloaded from the alphafold server without 
> > problems. However, then I realized that I had looked at the alphafold model 
> > after I had it superimposed on my own structure. Loading the alphafoldmodel 
> > directly in coot failed for me as well.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > By looking into the pdb file, I discovered that the alphafold file has a 
> > “MODEL” record just before the coordinates and an “ENDMDL” record after the 
> > coordinates. After deleting these two records, the alphafold pdb loads fine.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > 
> > Herman
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Von: CCP4 bulletin board <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Nicholas 
> > Keep
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 27. August 2021 16:51
> > An: [email protected]
> > Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] A "funny" thing related to AlphaFold2 ....
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Has anyone made use of an Alpha Fold PDB as opposed to CIF.  On the half 
> > dozen or so I have tried to read into CCP4mg or coot the PDB has always 
> > failed but the CIF is fine.  I can then write out a PDB if I want.
> > 
> > I could add to the conspiracy theories that this is EBI trying to 
> > normalise use of CIF format, but I suspect it is something much more 
> > mundane, that should be addressed.
> > 
> > Best wishes
> > 
> > Nick
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