Dear Shenyuan, I have two suggestions:
1. Is your protein a single or a multi-domain protein? If it is a multi-domain protein, you should search with the individual domains. 2. Given the low resolution, high anisotropy and expected large number of molecules in the asymmetric unit, you may have an exceptionally high solvent content, maybe >75%. Is the electron density of all molecules bad, or have a few molecules better electron density? If a few molecules have reasonable density, I would keep those and delete the molecules with bad density. Alternatively, I would start a MR search for only 3 or 4 molecules. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Im Auftrag von Xu, Shenyuan Gesendet: Montag, 24. Oktober 2022 03:43 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: [ccp4bb] Low resolution and high anisotropy Dear CCP4 community, I have encountered a dataset, which I thought should be easy to solve. The volume of the cell unit seems to be expanded after image 271, which I think is caused by radiation damage. After removing the last few images, the scaled statistics seem good with the resolution set at 3:07 A: d_max d_min #obs #uniq mult. %comp <I> <I/sI> r_mrg r_meas r_pim r_anom cc1/2 cc_ano 91.54 8.33 3086 1197 2.58 98.44 345.2 51.3 0.101 0.133 0.086 0.145 0.973* -0.148 8.33 6.61 3005 1225 2.45 99.51 256.5 27.3 0.160 0.212 0.138 0.260 0.923* -0.140 6.61 5.78 2883 1190 2.42 98.43 92.9 9.4 0.278 0.368 0.237 0.461 0.541* -0.165 5.78 5.25 3195 1217 2.63 99.10 75.6 8.1 0.283 0.369 0.233 0.436 0.618* -0.107 5.25 4.87 3192 1206 2.65 99.42 92.5 8.3 0.281 0.367 0.232 0.427 0.856* -0.187 4.87 4.59 3230 1213 2.66 99.02 118.4 10.3 0.288 0.378 0.240 0.456 0.870* -0.053 4.59 4.36 2797 1156 2.42 92.93 137.0 12.2 0.309 0.410 0.266 0.496 0.843* -0.239 4.36 4.17 2694 1118 2.41 93.17 280.2 16.2 0.419 0.575 0.392 0.847 0.491* -0.142 4.17 4.01 3102 1188 2.61 95.50 133.6 9.9 0.392 0.516 0.330 0.622 0.663* -0.268 4.01 3.87 3224 1205 2.68 98.69 120.4 7.3 0.406 0.539 0.349 0.687 0.791* -0.126 3.87 3.75 2939 1181 2.49 98.91 90.7 6.8 0.491 0.652 0.425 0.810 0.691* -0.042 3.75 3.64 1981 1021 1.94 82.34 87.3 5.0 0.557 0.756 0.506 0.885 0.540* -0.018 3.64 3.54 2374 1082 2.19 89.13 194.6 11.2 0.502 0.675 0.447 0.973 0.625* -0.237 3.54 3.46 2622 1122 2.34 92.35 310.5 10.1 0.432 0.585 0.392 0.851 0.603* -0.154 3.46 3.38 1739 945 1.84 76.58 48.2 3.6 0.930 1.247 0.822 1.542 0.444* -0.046 3.38 3.31 2847 1240 2.30 98.57 85.4 4.2 0.691 0.930 0.616 1.242 0.523* -0.060 3.31 3.24 2838 1153 2.46 97.88 70.8 3.3 0.693 0.934 0.620 1.341 0.362* 0.006 3.24 3.18 3097 1212 2.56 97.66 71.4 2.5 0.692 0.924 0.605 1.173 0.526* 0.044 3.18 3.12 3204 1216 2.63 99.10 79.6 3.7 0.668 0.886 0.576 1.338 0.440* -0.081 3.12 3.07 3059 1172 2.61 98.16 73.5 2.4 0.714 0.945 0.612 1.633 0.362* -0.177 91.50 3.07 57108 23259 2.46 95.22 138.4 10.8 0.383 0.513 0.336 0.671 0.656* -0.149 I used Mrbump to do the MR, most sequence identities of the starting templates are more than 0.85, and some of them are structures predicted from alpha fold 2. But after refinement (including jelly-body, proSmart, TLC), the best R/Free R stuck at around 0.42/0.45. Inspecting the electron density map shows that the model does not fit the electron density well. The space group is P1, Cell is 58.49 63.97 91.60 91.71 91.86 99.47, should be 5 or 6 molecules in the asymmetric unit. I checked the data quality, it said the data is highly anisotropy. Then I searched the CCP4 forum and used the STARANISO Server and UCLA server, but still cannot improve the refinement. The data statistics after drawing ellipsoidal resolution limits is good: <pre> resolution observed redundancy completenes rmerge i/sigma before/after before/after before/after before/after before/after 7.90 4957 1185 3.5 3.3 97.3% 92.6% 13.0% 12.7% 11.9 7.2 5.58 8023 2397 3.0 3.6 98.6% 98.9% 30.3% 11.8% 5.5 7.5 4.56 11176 2624 3.3 3.1 99.1% 97.5% 57.1% 18.2% 3.7 6.3 3.95 11694 3213 2.9 3.1 94.0% 99.0% 53.1% 27.5% 4.2 4.3 3.53 12065 3524 2.6 3.0 92.8% 99.0% 49.8% 45.9% 3.2 2.8 3.22 12828 4098 2.5 3.2 93.8% 99.1% 69.3% 53.2% 2.1 2.7 2.98 17566 4628 3.2 3.3 98.6% 99.1% 98.1% 60.0% 1.6 2.7 2.79 19405 4631 3.3 3.1 98.1% 96.8% 203.0% 70.3% 0.8 2.7 2.63 20871 4001 3.3 2.5 98.1% 90.1% 760.1% 41.2% 0.3 3.4 2.50 20352 5406 3.0 3.2 97.8% 97.3% -99.9% 66.0% 0.0 2.6 2.38 17281 5689 2.5 3.2 93.8% 98.2% -99.9% 81.4% 0.0 1.8 2.28 13198 3874 1.8 2.1 68.6% 88.0% 546.3% 193.2% 0.1 0.6 2.19 10429 4961 1.4 2.6 52.5% 92.7% -99.9% 31.0% 0.0 4.8 2.11 7776 4275 1.0 2.1 41.2% 90.1% -99.9% 266.0% 0.0 0.6 2.04 5561 6084 0.7 2.9 30.9% 97.6% 531.4% 109.2% 0.1 1.1 1.97 3818 6700 0.4 3.1 23.4% 97.4% -99.9% 85.8% 0.0 1.6 1.91 2269 5906 0.3 2.7 17.0% 83.9% -99.9% 87.3% 0.0 1.5 1.86 1191 5250 0.1 2.3 10.4% 69.2% -99.9% 167.5% 0.0 0.9 1.81 433 3961 0.0 1.7 4.5% 51.0% -99.9% 225.7% 0.0 0.8 1.77 60 2168 0.0 0.9 0.6% 27.2% -99.9% 254.0% 0.0 0.7 total 200953 84575 1.6 2.6 54.7% 84.6% 78.6% 54.0% 1.4 2.4 </pre> Any suggestions would help. I can provide the collected image dataset and the sequence if anyone is interested. Thanks, Shenyuan Xu Miami University ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1<https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/