A basic Peltier element will likely work (may need a stack of two to reach
-20) however the simpler option indeed would be to 'fake out' thermocouple
input using a voltage, as described by Ivan.

https://us.flukecal.com/Thermocouple-Temperature-Calculator

And for $38 one can apparently purchase a thermocouple simulator

https://www.brightwinelectronics.com/product/temperature-calibrator-k-n-thermocouple-generator-simulator

Artem

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023, 3:42 PM Rajkovic, Ivan <
000095c2dc0d4fa4-dmarc-requ...@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> Not sure if this would work, but can you get a voltage supply and connect
> it instead of the thermocouple? You would need something to provide a few
> mV:
> https://www.thermocoupleinfo.com/type-k-thermocouple.htm
>
>
> Ivan
>
>
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> > Gruene
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> > To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> > Subject: [ccp4bb] small scale -15C chiller
> >
> > Good day,
> >
> > I would like to cool a K-type thermocouple down to -15C. The temperature
> does
> > not need to be very accurate, nor exactly -15C, just below that level.
> >
> > I was thinking of using a piezo-chiller, but they don't seem to be very
> energy
> > efficient.
> >
> > Could anyone make a recommendation for a simple device to cool the tiny
> > thermocouple to -15C to -20C?
> >
> > For the details: we have an inhouse diffractometer with a dead detector.
> The
> > system is blocked, because the temperature of the detector needs to be
> below -
> > 15C. It is measured with a K-type thermocouple. I tested with liquid
> nitrogen.
> > The system show -64C (probably the limit of the thermocoupe) and I can
> operate
> > the system (and mount our new (brand-alien) detector).
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > Best,
> > Tim
> >
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> University
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