You have tried all spacegroups within point groups? P2 p21 c222 c2221?.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 03:01, Lijun Liu <[email protected]> wrote:

> If data processing to be ok and all possible monoclinic and orthorombic SG
> gave unreasonable high Rs, maybe good to give a try with p1 space group?  
> Since
> the p-lattice indexing gave same a and  b also very close alpha and beta,
> it could not exclude the possibility of p1 then twinned (also together with
> ncs and tNCS) to show higher symmetry?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 21, 2023, at 1:25 PM, Jessica Bruhn <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Gianluca,
>
> Have you checked for diffraction anisotropy problems? It might be worth
> running it through the STARANISO webserver:
> https://staraniso.globalphasing.org/cgi-bin/staraniso.cgi. Anisotropy can
> make your data look twinned and elliptical truncation can help improve
> maps.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Best,
> Jessica
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 11:17 AM Jon Cooper <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello, can you give us a screenshot of a diffraction image, with the
>> caveat that they never look all that good with fine-slicing, still it might
>> help ;-0 Also, an idea of the R-merge, R-meas, CC-half in some of those
>> space groups.
>>
>> Best wishes, Jon Cooper. [email protected]
>>
>> Sent from Proton Mail mobile
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> On 21 Mar 2023, 16:43, Gianluca Cioci <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have collected a dataset from a small protein diffracting at 2.7A
>> resolution, here is the space-group determination from XDS:
>>
>>  *  44        aP          0.0      66.3   66.3   83.9  90.2  90.1  98.7
>>  *  31        aP          1.2      66.3   66.3   83.9  89.8  90.1  81.3
>>  *  14        mC         1.3      86.4  100.6   83.9  90.0  90.2  90.0
>>  *  34        mP         2.9      66.3   83.9   66.3  90.2  98.7  90.1
>>  *  13        oC          3.7      86.4  100.6   83.9  90.0  90.2  90.0
>>  *  10        mC         4.9     100.6   86.4   83.9  89.8  90.0  90.0
>>
>> Clearly, something weird is going on...
>>
>> The structure can be solved in C2/P21/C2221 with different number of
>> molecules in the AU, with Phaser complaining about strong tNCS modulation.
>>
>> However the maps look bad and the structure is impossible to refine
>> (Rfact > 0.5) in all the space-groups that I have tried so far...
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any advice on how to rescue these data !
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> GIA
>>
>>
>> [image: Click to zoom the image]
>>
>>
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