Hi Harry,

If you need to produce PDB files from CIF files with 5-letter ligand codes
you can use gemmi convert, e.g.:

gemmi convert gemmi convert 8XFM.cif 8XFM.pdb --shorten-tlc

The original has a ligand called A1LU6. In the PDB file it gets a HET and
HETNAM entry:

HET    ~U6  A 401      25     real CCD code: A1LU6

HET    EDO  A 402       4

HET     ZN  A 403       1

HETNAM     ~U6
A1LU6

Then in the atom lines it is referred to by the new ID:

HETATM 2209 CL   ~U6 A 401      38.210  38.396  16.715  1.00 77.22
 CL
HETATM 2210  C17 ~U6 A 401      38.401  39.551  15.377  1.00 54.65
  C
HETATM 2211  C16 ~U6 A 401      37.332  40.370  15.083  1.00 52.11
  C
HETATM 2212  C15 ~U6 A 401      37.438  41.271  14.038  1.00 51.08
  C
HETATM 2213  C14 ~U6 A 401      38.616  41.345  13.308  1.00 48.95
  C

If you convert it back to CIF with gemmi:

gemmi convert 8XFM.pdb new.cif

Then the resulting mmCIF file just uses the original A1LU6 naming.

Cheers,
Paul

On Thu, 20 Nov 2025 at 12:54, Harry Powell <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> The real answer (before I ask the question) is, of course, to use mmCIF.
> But quite a few programs out there don’t read mmCIF files properly (if at
> all), so I’ll ask the question anyway.
>
> The venerable PDB format allows 3 columns (18-20) for the residue or
> ligand name, and this was fine as long as there were only chemical
> components allowed with 3 characters - but now there are loads that have 5
> characters (e.g. A1B20 - see
> https://www.ebi.ac.uk/pdbe-srv/pdbechem/chemicalCompound/show/A1B20).
>
> If I wanted to write a PDB format file for the ligand that had the
> 5-character code, what would be the “best” way to do it (of course, there
> are different definitions of “best”…)?
>
> What dirty trick would cause the least damage (at least, to common
> programs)?
>
> Allowing the ligand name to spread over columns 16-20 *might* work, but
> that would mean encroaching on the atom name column, and might cause
> confusion between things like calcium (“CA “) and carbons labelled with an
> “A” (“ CA”).
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Harry
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