Coot and the gui free library versions thereof can provide a very long list of 
candidate water positions !

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Hey folks, I was just wondering what people's experience with automated water 
completion methods was.

I'm hoping to experiment with blind water placement into PanDDA event maps in 
the near future, which is obviously not a use case any of these methods were 
designed for.

I've got a fairly reliable method for evaluating waters in these maps given 
candidate positions, but I was hoping to avoid reimplementing the generation of 
the candidate water model by hooking into an existing framework. As I'm fairly 
happy with the evaluation I'm actually not very concerned about false positive 
errors, and so a method that can avoid false negatives at the cost of many 
false positives is actually fairly ideal.

PanDDA event maps are obviously real space maps that are highly 
non-crystallographic in the sense that large parts of the unit cell are masked 
to zero, which means that software that is real space native would probably be 
preferable, but reciprocal space is only an FFT away so I doubt it matters. 
Structural models are still related to the map unit cell by symmetry rather 
than offsets so cryo-em software might take some hacking but that also seems 
fine!

Thanks!
Conor


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