On 25/02/2026 12:13, Kikuti Carlos wrote:
Hey guys, Paul,


I don't know if you are aware of the trouble Coot-1 has with rotamer and other 
validation graphs: the residue numbers on the abscissa seem to ignore the 
sequence gaps. The columns are associated with the PDB numbering and not the 
numbers in the abscissa, and I believe the scale of the columns is not right, 
or I just can't spot the problems using it because it's too pessimistic. Plus: 
is green bad, and red good?
This is on m ylist. I will bump it to the top, so that I will look at it in the next few days.

How is the Edit Chi Angles button supposed to work? A window opens up but I 
can't modify anything.

You are not alone in being confused by this.

You are supposed to click on the chi-angle button in the Edit Chi Angles dialog. This will put the mouse into "rotate chi angle" mode - so now just go back to the graphics window and click and drag as you used to.

The 'Save coordinates' function never remembers the last folder I used, so I 
keep a Finder window open there, to drag-and-drop the file name, then modify it 
by hand before saving. At least we have drag-and-drop! Just a bit annoying.
Fixed in 1.1.20 (or is that what you are using?)
  I save frequently because of the sudden crashes (just had another one).

Ctrl-S is "Quick Save As" (for the record).

The chain-to-chain navigation bug has been fixed in HEAD and will be available in the next release.

(maybe related:) Oh I can't start coot-1.app from the command line, by the way. 
Permission denied. It works from Spotlight, so it opens from my Home folder I guess. I am 
a bit fed up with these "permissions" that Mac OS asks me to grant to programs 
all the time. Maybe that is causing the issue? I can't find a way to grant access to 
entire disk to Coot, if that could help.
I don't know much about Macs.

Graphics are much nicer now, could we have more options for colors of the bonds?

You have options - unless you want to change the colours of the non-carbon atoms.

You can use

import coot

coot.set_use_grey_carbons_for_molecule(0,1)

coot.set_grey_carbon_colour(0, 0.4, 0.5, 0.6) # or whatever shade you like

Do you want more?

Graphics in Moorhen are also great, but Moorhen is still too problematic with 
display bugs - I can make a video showing this, if you are interested.

Yes please.

Generally we talk about moorhen here:

https://github.com/moorhen-coot/Moorhen/issues

but happy to talk here if you don't want to do github.

Coot-1 still works fine with other functions, I still love the sphere refine 
which is not available in the 0.9 series,
Click right-mouse on the right-hand side of the vertical divider in the horizontal tool-bar. Several functions can be enabled from there including Sphere Refine.
  so I'm considering installing a virtual machine with Linux hoping to be more 
efficient.
I don't follow, but it doesn't matter.
  Downgrading Mac OS is not an option given institutional obligations and my 
other programs.
So I hear.

Of course Coot is still the best by far, so I'm just listing the trouble hoping 
that you find time to fix them. Let me know if I can help with logs and stuff 
(please tell me exactly which stuff).

Well, the version that you're using is a good start. Here's my blog post about reporting a bug in Coot or elsewhere:

https://pemsley.github.io/coot/blog/2020/09/21/how-to-make-a-bug-report.html

Paul


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