Has someone tried this on Apple Tahoe with Intel chips? (asks before possibly upgrading to Tahoe)
Mark van Raaij Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas, lab B5B Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC calle Darwin 3 E-28049 Madrid, Spain tel. +34 91 585 4616 (internal 432092) > On 24 Aug 2026, at 08:57, Dominik Oberthuer > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Oliver, Matthew, Engin, > > if this isn’t working properly, have you tried Bandicoot? > > https://diffuse.science/post/bandicoot/ > > https://github.com/fraser-lab/bandicoot > >> Bandicoot is a macOS-native fork of Coot0.9.8.95, the structural biology >> macromolecular model-building program. It keeps Coot 0.9's full >> functionality while changing several UI elements in order for the app to >> function in MacOS Tahoe (26.x) on Apple Silicon. >> >> NOTE: Bandicoot targets macOS Tahoe (26.x) on Apple Silicon. It is not built >> or tested on other macOS releases, Linux, or Windows. >> >> NOTE Bandicoot is a work in progress; users are welcome to log issues and >> issue pull requests. > > Cheers, Dominik > > On 24.08.26 01:00, CCP4BB automatic digest system wrote: >> There are 4 messages totaling 3805 lines in this issue. >> >> Topics of the day: >> >> 1. Quartz/Coot 0.9.8.96 (4) >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> >> This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB >> <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB>, a mailing list hosted by >> www.jiscmail.ac.uk <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/>, terms & conditions are >> available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2026 09:07:49 +0200 >> From: Oliver H. Weiergräber >> <[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Quartz/Coot 0.9.8.96 >> >> Hello Engin and Matthew, >> >> Using Coot 0.9.8.96 (ccp4) on a Macbook Air M2 (running latest OS and >> XQuartz, as mentioned above), this is what I am getting (see attached >> screenshot). >> As you can see, the bottom row (for display of status information) is >> mostly drawn black, and there is an additional horizontal area on top >> which should not be there. Btw, the icons displayed there are actually >> copies of the main toolbar on the right, and their number may change >> when resizing the window. Clearly a case of graphics corruption. >> >> Of course I tried deleting the .coot-preferences directory as well as >> local state files, without effect. >> >> Best, >> Oliver >> >> >> >> >> >> On 22.08.26 21:12, Engin Özkan wrote: >>> For extra data on this, everything I could test was fine with an M1 >>> MacBook Pro and Xquartz 2.8.6 (stable) on Tahoe 26.6.2. All pop-up >>> windows I tried worked as intended. This is with 0.9.8.96 (installed via >>> ccp4, version 9.0.017). >>> >>> The only issue I have is a thin row of corrupted space (same thickness >>> as the menu bar) under the menu bar, or sequence viewer when turned on, >>> but it does not affect usability much. An upgrade to 2.8.7beta3 does not >>> fix this issue, so I would not suggest it yet. >>> >>> Engin >>> >>> >>> On 8/22/26 12:41 PM, Matthew Snee wrote: >>>> Hi Oliver >>>> >>>> I have tested two macs now using xquartz 2.8.6 and coot 0.9.8.93 EL >>>> and both an M4 MAX studio and an M2 MacBook Air with the latest Tahoe. >>>> >>>> I tested looking at maps and some refinement features etc.. Obviously >>>> I cant test everything but dialogue boxes and stuff are all working >>>> fine for me. >>>> >>>> I'm not recommending anyone assumes it will work with their hardware, >>>> but I thought everyone was in the same boat as me where it wouldn't >>>> even launch? >>>> >>>> Best wishes >>>> >>>> Matthew. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Oliver H. Weiergräber <[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2026 6:12 pm >>>> *To:* Matthew Snee <[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>; >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Quartz/Coot 0.9.8.96 >>>> Dear Matthew, >>>> >>>> For me, using Tahoe 26.6.2 and XQuartz 2.8.6, Coot 0.9 starts up with a >>>> partly corrupted workspace. >>>> Are you maybe referring to XQuartz 2.8.7beta? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Oliver >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 21.08.26 18:27, Matthew Snee wrote: >>>>> Hi All >>>>> >>>>> Just to let everyone know, but the latest Xquartz or Tahoe update >>>>> appears to have fixed the (OpenGL) issue in Xquartz that broke Coot 0.9 >>>>> versions for mac. >>>>> >>>>> *Matthew Snee, PhD* >>>>> >>>>> Post-doctoral Research Associate >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Baldock Lab | Michael Smith Building C3.214 | Wellcome Trust Centre >>>>> for Cell-Matrix Research |Division of Cell Matrix Biology & Regenerative >>>>> Medicine| School of Biological Sciences| Faculty of Biology, Medicine >>>>> and Health, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PT >>>>> >>>>> Lab Tel: +44 (0)161 306 2869 >>>>> >>>>> cell-matrix-research >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>> >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> >> This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB >> <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB>, a mailing list hosted by >> www.jiscmail.ac.uk <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/>, terms & conditions are >> available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecu >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2026 00:22:03 -0700 >> From: Kedar Sharma <[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Quartz/Coot 0.9.8.96 >> >> Hi all, >> I have updated to xquartz 2.8.7 beta 3 and coot 0.9.8.96 working fine. I >> am using Mac Tahoe 26.6.2. >> >> Best >> >> Kedar >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2026 at 12:08 AM Oliver H. Weiergräber < >> [email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello Engin and Matthew, >>> >>> Using Coot 0.9.8.96 (ccp4) on a Macbook Air M2 (running latest OS and >>> XQuartz, as mentioned above), this is what I am getting (see attached >>> screenshot). >>> As you can see, the bottom row (for display of status information) is >>> mostly drawn black, and there is an additional horizontal area on top >>> which should not be there. Btw, the icons displayed there are actually >>> copies of the main toolbar on the right, and their number may change >>> when resizing the window. Clearly a case of graphics corruption. >>> >>> Of course I tried deleting the .coot-preferences directory as well as >>> local state files, without effect. >>> >>> Best, >>> Oliver >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 22.08.26 21:12, Engin Özkan wrote: >>>> For extra data on this, everything I could test was fine with an M1 >>>> MacBook Pro and Xquartz 2.8.6 (stable) on Tahoe 26.6.2. All pop-up >>>> windows I tried worked as intended. This is with 0.9.8.96 (installed via >>>> ccp4, version 9.0.017). >>>> >>>> The only issue I have is a thin row of corrupted space (same thickness >>>> as the menu bar) under the menu bar, or sequence viewer when turned on, >>>> but it does not affect usability much. An upgrade to 2.8.7beta3 does not >>>> fix this issue, so I would not suggest it yet. >>>> >>>> Engin >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/22/26 12:41 PM, Matthew Snee wrote: >>>>> Hi Oliver >>>>> >>>>> I have tested two macs now using xquartz 2.8.6 and coot 0.9.8.93 EL >>>>> and both an M4 MAX studio and an M2 MacBook Air with the latest Tahoe. >>>>> >>>>> I tested looking at maps and some refinement features etc.. Obviously >>>>> I cant test everything but dialogue boxes and stuff are all working >>>>> fine for me. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not recommending anyone assumes it will work with their hardware, >>>>> but I thought everyone was in the same boat as me where it wouldn't >>>>> even launch? >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Matthew. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Oliver H. Weiergräber <[email protected]> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2026 6:12 pm >>>>> *To:* Matthew Snee <[email protected]> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>; >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Quartz/Coot 0.9.8.96 >>>>> Dear Matthew, >>>>> >>>>> For me, using Tahoe 26.6.2 and XQuartz 2.8.6, Coot 0.9 starts up with a >>>>> partly corrupted workspace. >>>>> Are you maybe referring to XQuartz 2.8.7beta? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Oliver >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 21.08.26 18:27, Matthew Snee wrote: >>>>>> Hi All >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to let everyone know, but the latest Xquartz or Tahoe update >>>>>> appears to have fixed the (OpenGL) issue in Xquartz that broke Coot >>> 0.9 >>>>>> versions for mac. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Matthew Snee, PhD* >>>>>> >>>>>> Post-doctoral Research Associate >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Baldock Lab | Michael Smith Building C3.214 | Wellcome Trust >>> Centre >>>>>> for Cell-Matrix Research |Division of Cell Matrix Biology & >>> Regenerative >>>>>> Medicine| School of Biological Sciences| Faculty of Biology, Medicine >>>>>> and Health, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PT >>>>>> >>>>>> Lab Tel: +44 (0)161 306 2869 >>>>>> >>>>>> cell-matrix-research >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>> >>> >>> ######################################################################## >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>> >>> This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB >>> <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB>, a >>> mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/>, >>> terms & conditions are >>> available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ >>> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> >> This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB >> <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB>, a mailing list hosted by >> www.jiscmail.ac.uk <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/>, terms & conditions are >> available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/ >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2026 02:49:41 -0500 >> From: Engin Özkan <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Quartz/Coot 0.9.8.96 >> >> Hi Oliver, >> >> Yes, that's the thin row of corrupted space at the top, similar to the >> picture Matthew had attached. But you can load maps and coordinates, and >> everything works in my hands. >> >> The loss of the bottom row is the only lost functionality I can see (I >> had missed it). That is significant, indeed. Though you can make up for >> that by running coot from a terminal and looking at the output there, I >> believe. It beats immediate crashing, as has been the case lately. >> >> Coot 0.9 will not likely see any updates, so this is a temporary >> solution until we all manage to move to Coot 1. >> >> Engin >> >> >> On 8/23/26 2:07 AM, Oliver H. Weiergräber wrote: >>> Hello Engin and Matthew, >>> >>> Using Coot 0.9.8.96 (ccp4) on a Macbook Air M2 (running latest OS and >>> XQuartz, as mentioned above), this is what I am getting (see attached >>> screenshot). >>> As you can see, the bottom row (for display of status information) is >>> mostly drawn black, and there is an additional horizontal area on top >>> which should not be there. Btw, the icons displayed there are actually >>> copies of the main toolbar on the right, and their number may change >>> when resizing the window. Clearly a case of graphics corruption. >>> >>> Of course I tried deleting the .coot-preferences directory as well as >>> local state files, without effect. >>> >>> Best, >>> Oliver >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 22.08.26 21:12, Engin Özkan wrote: >>>> For extra data on this, everything I could test was fine with an M1 >>>> MacBook Pro and Xquartz 2.8.6 (stable) on Tahoe 26.6.2. All pop-up >>>> windows I tried worked as intended. This is with 0.9.8.96 (installed >>>> via ccp4, version 9.0.017). >>>> >>>> The only issue I have is a thin row of corrupted space (same >>>> thickness as the menu bar) under the menu bar, or sequence viewer >>>> when turned on, but it does not affect usability much. An upgrade to >>>> 2.8.7beta3 does not fix this issue, so I would not suggest it yet. >>>> >>>> Engin >>>> >>>> >>>> On 8/22/26 12:41 PM, Matthew Snee wrote: >>>>> Hi Oliver >>>>> >>>>> I have tested two macs now using xquartz 2.8.6 and coot 0.9.8.93 EL >>>>> and both an M4 MAX studio and an M2 MacBook Air with the latest Tahoe. >>>>> >>>>> I tested looking at maps and some refinement features etc.. >>>>> Obviously I cant test everything but dialogue boxes and stuff are >>>>> all working fine for me. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not recommending anyone assumes it will work with their >>>>> hardware, but I thought everyone was in the same boat as me where >>>>> it wouldn't even launch? >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes >>>>> >>>>> Matthew. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Oliver H. Weiergräber <[email protected]> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2026 6:12 pm >>>>> *To:* Matthew Snee <[email protected]> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>; >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Quartz/Coot 0.9.8.96 >>>>> Dear Matthew, >>>>> >>>>> For me, using Tahoe 26.6.2 and XQuartz 2.8.6, Coot 0.9 starts up with a >>>>> partly corrupted workspace. >>>>> Are you maybe referring to XQuartz 2.8.7beta? >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Oliver >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 21.08.26 18:27, Matthew Snee wrote: >>>>>> Hi All >>>>>> >>>>>> Just to let everyone know, but the latest Xquartz or Tahoe update >>>>>> appears to have fixed the (OpenGL) issue in Xquartz that broke >>>>> Coot 0.9 >>>>>> versions for mac. >>>>>> >>>>>> *Matthew Snee, PhD* >>>>>> >>>>>> Post-doctoral Research Associate >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Baldock Lab | Michael Smith Building C3.214 | Wellcome Trust >>>>> Centre >>>>>> for Cell-Matrix Research |Division of Cell Matrix Biology & >>>>> Regenerative >>>>>> Medicine| School of Biological Sciences| Faculty of Biology, Medicine >>>>>> and Health, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PT >>>>>> >>>>>> Lab Tel: +44 (0)161 306 2869 >>>>>> >>>>>> cell-matrix-research >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2026 10:12:25 +0200 >> From: Oliver H. Weiergräber >> <[email protected]> >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Quartz/Coot 0.9.8.96 >> >> Hi Engin, >> >> Sorry, I had missed Matthew's attachment -- so we are all seeing the >> same things. >> For those still relying on Coot 0.9, the Bandicoot project may be the >> way to go: https://github.com/fraser-lab/bandicoot >> >> Best, >> Oliver >> >> >> >> >> >> On 23.08.26 09:49, Engin Özkan wrote: >>> Hi Oliver, >>> >>> Yes, that's the thin row of corrupted space at the top, similar to the >>> picture Matthew had attached. But you can load maps and coordinates, and >>> everything works in my hands. >>> >>> The loss of the bottom row is the only lost functionality I can see (I >>> had missed it). That is significant, indeed. Though you can make up for >>> that by running coot from a terminal and looking at the output there, I >>> believe. It beats immediate crashing, as has been the case lately. >>> >>> Coot 0.9 will not likely see any updates, so this is a temporary >>> solution until we all manage to move to Coot 1. >>> >>> Engin >>> >>> >>> On 8/23/26 2:07 AM, Oliver H. Weiergräber wrote: >>>> Hello Engin and Matthew, >>>> >>>> Using Coot 0.9.8.96 (ccp4) on a Macbook Air M2 (running latest OS and >>>> XQuartz, as mentioned above), this is what I am getting (see attached >>>> screenshot). >>>> As you can see, the bottom row (for display of status information) is >>>> mostly drawn black, and there is an additional horizontal area on top >>>> which should not be there. Btw, the icons displayed there are actually >>>> copies of the main toolbar on the right, and their number may change >>>> when resizing the window. Clearly a case of graphics corruption. >>>> >>>> Of course I tried deleting the .coot-preferences directory as well as >>>> local state files, without effect. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Oliver >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 22.08.26 21:12, Engin Özkan wrote: >>>>> For extra data on this, everything I could test was fine with an M1 >>>>> MacBook Pro and Xquartz 2.8.6 (stable) on Tahoe 26.6.2. All pop-up >>>>> windows I tried worked as intended. This is with 0.9.8.96 (installed >>>>> via ccp4, version 9.0.017). >>>>> >>>>> The only issue I have is a thin row of corrupted space (same >>>>> thickness as the menu bar) under the menu bar, or sequence viewer >>>>> when turned on, but it does not affect usability much. An upgrade to >>>>> 2.8.7beta3 does not fix this issue, so I would not suggest it yet. >>>>> >>>>> Engin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/22/26 12:41 PM, Matthew Snee wrote: >>>>>> Hi Oliver >>>>>> >>>>>> I have tested two macs now using xquartz 2.8.6 and coot 0.9.8.93 EL >>>>>> and both an M4 MAX studio and an M2 MacBook Air with the latest Tahoe. >>>>>> >>>>>> I tested looking at maps and some refinement features etc.. >>>>>> Obviously I cant test everything but dialogue boxes and stuff are >>>>>> all working fine for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not recommending anyone assumes it will work with their >>>>>> hardware, but I thought everyone was in the same boat as me where >>>>>> it wouldn't even launch? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best wishes >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthew. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> *From:* Oliver H. Weiergräber <[email protected]> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2026 6:12 pm >>>>>> *To:* Matthew Snee <[email protected]> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>; >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] Quartz/Coot 0.9.8.96 >>>>>> Dear Matthew, >>>>>> >>>>>> For me, using Tahoe 26.6.2 and XQuartz 2.8.6, Coot 0.9 starts up with a >>>>>> partly corrupted workspace. >>>>>> Are you maybe referring to XQuartz 2.8.7beta? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Oliver >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 21.08.26 18:27, Matthew Snee wrote: >>>>>>> Hi All >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just to let everyone know, but the latest Xquartz or Tahoe update >>>>>>> appears to have fixed the (OpenGL) issue in Xquartz that broke >>>>>> Coot 0.9 >>>>>>> versions for mac. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Matthew Snee, PhD* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Post-doctoral Research Associate >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Baldock Lab | Michael Smith Building C3.214 | Wellcome Trust >>>>>> Centre >>>>>>> for Cell-Matrix Research |Division of Cell Matrix Biology & >>>>>> Regenerative >>>>>>> Medicine| School of Biological Sciences| Faculty of Biology, Medicine >>>>>>> and Health, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lab Tel: +44 (0)161 306 2869 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cell-matrix-research >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >>>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>> <https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1> >>>>> >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 >> >> This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB >> <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB>, a mailing list hosted by >> www.jiscmail.ac.uk <http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/>, terms & conditions are >> available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policya >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of CCP4BB Digest - 22 Aug 2026 to 23 Aug 2026 (#2026-203) >> ************************************************************* > > -- > Dr. Dominik Oberthür > Center for Free-Electron Laser Science CFEL > Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron DESY > FS-CFEL-1-SFX > > Notkestr. 85 > 22607 Hamburg > Germany > > phone: +49 (0)40 8998 6394 > mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/WA-JISC.exe?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1 This message was issued to members of www.jiscmail.ac.uk/CCP4BB, a mailing list hosted by www.jiscmail.ac.uk, terms & conditions are available at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/policyandsecurity/
