> On Jun 12, 2015, at 07:57, Antonio Carlini <arcarl...@iee.org> wrote:
> 
> Doesn't control-P on the console halt the machine on a VAX-11/730?

It brings up the console prompt, but the (H)alt command just prints the PC 
rather than triggering a halt on the 725/730.

Next time I work on the system (Tonight? Or maybe tomorrow... depends on how 
cool it is in the evening, as that box pumps out enough BTUs that I need to 
open windows!) I will try a password reset as described here:

http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/204

Oh yeah, I forgot to comment on this earlier:

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 04:01, Peter Coghlan <cct...@beyondthepale.ie> wrote:
> Once you get logged in to VMS, I think it should be possible to use EXCHANGE 
> to
> poke around the console tape images on the file level.  It might be possible 
> to
> find the reason for the problem that way?

I can poke around at the file level with my RT11 filesystem tool:
  https://github.com/NF6X/pyRT11

In fact, the image I've used to boot the system isn't exactly the one that you 
fixed for me, but rather a new one I created using its files and bootblocks, 
with several scripts added to try booting different root directories. On the 
730, I don't think I can modify R5 in the boot command. Rather, I would need to 
either manually type in the whole boot sequence manually, or create a new boot 
script off-system. I chose the latter, and made a bunch of them to try probing 
different root dirs on both the R80 and RL02 drives. BTW, standalone backup was 
not helpfully installed on E on my R80, so once I crowbar my way in, I'll try 
running a backup under the full OS.

And new replies have arrive while I was typing:

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 08:00, Peter Coghlan <cct...@beyondthepale.ie> wrote:
> 
> You can get a free hobbyist license if you join whatever DECUS is called now.

I joined a while back, but haven't requested license yet since I didn't have my 
system serial number handy. I'll pull the rack out and jot down the number 
before I leave for work this morning.

> [and an alternate set of password reset instructions]


Thanks! This is very helpful, as I am a real VMS noob. My previous experience 
with it was just using it briefly in one or two classes, and running a canned 
script to perform backups as a graveyard shift operator (Great pay for a 
student! And a key to the machine room! And a staff account with no quotas, 
rather than buying limited time or fighting with everybody else for CPU cycles 
on a class-account cesspit server! Do homework on a Sun workstation instead of 
a Wyse terminal! Heck, run a sim on the C240 supercomputer! Giggle!). I can 
still hear that TU77 howling in my mind. Hmm, I wouldn't mind having one, with 
a matching 11/780... :)

Back in the day, I really hated VMS for no other reason than I liked UNIX and 
embraced it with the natural snobbishness of a youth growing up in the computer 
environment of the 80s, where our computer was the "best" even though the other 
guy's "crappy" computer used the same 6502 running at the same clock speed (but 
mine really was the best, because it used a 6809 :) ). But now I want to learn 
about VMS and appreciate it for what it is.

> On Jun 12, 2015, at 08:11, Johnny Billquist <b...@update.uu.se> wrote:
> Avoid V5, though. I remember at the time that people was having serious 
> issues with that version. V6 improved things again. I think DEC spent a fair 
> amount of time to improve performance because of all the complaints about V5.
> V4 would also be good in some ways, but it's old and might feel limited if 
> you want some modern software running...

Modern software running on a 730... I don't know if I'll live long enough to 
wait for it to launch! :)

-- 
Mark J. Blair, NF6X <n...@nf6x.net>
http://www.nf6x.net/

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