On Fri, 30 Oct 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I think the demise of FORTRAN is overstated. That there is an X3 group still advancing the language attests to that. While FORTRAN may be a 60-year old language, Fortran is not.

Which one is NASA looking for? FORTRAN/Fortran in general, or expertise with the variants from half a century ago?


As far as assembly, I don't believe that it's a dead language. When you need simple, rugged, low-power hardware, it's still a very good way to go.

The rumors of its demise have been around for a long time.

2 or 3 decades ago, the folk controlling lower division undergraduate "Computer Science" at UC (pronounced "UCK") Berkeley, Clancy and Harvey, declared, "Assembly language is dead! Nobody will ever program in it again.", and shifted their program to Scheme/Lisp. They also discontinued any beginning courses in C, claiming that anybody entering college for Computer Science should/would "already know C". That increased UC Berkeley student enrollment in the C classes that I taught at Merritt College (Peralta Community College District), and our Fortram classes got a lot of UC Berkeley students who had Fortran as a degree requirement in various science departments.

Philippe Kahn said, about his "Turbo-Assembler", that "Assembly language is not for programming; it is for debugging".

I have to admit that assembly language may no longer be a great career path, but there will always be need for some levels of hand optimization.

Note: I realize that some may feel a need to differentiate between machine language programming and assembly language programming. I acknowledge the difference, but feel that in this context they can be lumped together.


It is always amusing how desperate some peop[le seem to be to declare the demise of any systems that they aren't involved in.


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