On Aug 19, 2016, at 2:40 PM, Zane Healy <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Chris Hanson <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Back in the day, did anyone produce an X11 server for DOS-based 8086/8088 
>> systems, say with support for Hercules or CGA graphics? Or was that strictly 
>> a 286-or-better thing, given the overall constraints of the 8086 
>> architecture?
>> 
>> (There were plenty of mouse-and-window systems for the PC/XT back then, I 
>> expect black & white X11 over a serial link would not be *that* bad…)
>> 
>> -- Chris
>> 
> 
> The only thing that comes to mind is DESQview/X, and IIRC, that required a 
> minimum of a 386.  

There was plenty more than DESQview/X, and there were X11 servers that ran on 
286.

> I tend to think that X11 over serial would be nothing short of nightmarish.  
> After all, that’s why we have VNC.

I'm very specifically talking about pure black & white, with server-side 
bitmap-only fonts, and also (though I didn't originally say so) with an X 
client itself written in the 1980s that only really bare-bones X11R3 or so and 
only uses black & white. And running on a workstation of that era, of course.

While I wouldn't want to use such a combination over, say, 1200bps dialup, it 
doesn't seem like it would be utterly awful via a direct connection at whatever 
the serial port on a PC with an NEC V20 (8086-compatible and around 8 MHz) 
could handle reliably.

  -- Chris

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