On 2017-Nov-27, at 5:25 PM, steve shumaker via cctalk wrote:
> On 11/27/2017 2:26 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
>>>> The Livermore Data Systems modems that I sold off were from about 1964?
>> 
>> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, Brent Hilpert via cctalk wrote:
>>> Were those the Livermore Data Systems modems in a wood box you were selling?
>>> Did you have anything to ascertain the 1964 date for LDS, or were you 
>>> getting that date from the stuff on the web?
>> . . .
>>> Someone in some comments suggests LDS wasn't building these until 1968, 
>>> which strikes me as more plausible.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> That is why I put a question mark after 1964.
>> I was basing it on nothing more than verbal comment by the guy that I got 
>> them from.   And, while I had them, I hadn't had any reason to particularly 
>> care.
>> 
>> 1968 does, indeed, seem more plausible.
>> 
>> It still serves to illustrate that 1971 is NOT too early for that NCR.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Grumpy Ol' Fred             ci...@xenosoft.com
>> 
> I can add another data point to the discussion:
> 
> My LDS Model A with SN 0491 has two TI transistors both with data code "6914"
> 
> And for what it's worth, if you have one and have never opened it up, go do 
> so right now!    The three small circuit boards have a 3"x4" piece of the 
> infamous black foam to pad the cards when inserted in the case.  Of course 
> the foam is mostly gone now except for where it wraps around the cards and 
> corrodes the components that it touches!


Thanks for the additional datapoint.
It does suggest Model A production may likely have started in 1968.
Actual date codes in mine were 6908 to 7008.
The larger caps are also a good place to look for date codes.

I did the schematic, if you have an interest.
Eventually I'll get a little web article up for the model.


I couldn't find the ebay listing for the NCR modem for some reason, either 
using the number or by searching by keywords.

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