----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Cisin via cctalk" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk@classiccmp.org> Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 3:45 PM Subject: Re: C64's still managing building systems
>> "A new, more current system would cost between $1.5 and 2 million. " > > On Sun, 3 Dec 2017, drlegendre . via cctalk wrote: >> Something tells me there's more than a Commodore Amiga involved, here. This >> figure must include the radio hardware and controllers at each of the >> schools. The article goes on to say that a student at one of the high >> schools wrote the software that runs it all.. but it must also require some >> sort of controller / interface, so who supplied that (sans software)? >> Doesn't really make much sense, but then again, not a lot of reporting does. > > First, the school board needs to go to Hawaii, Japan, France, Germany, and > Greece, in order to see how it is done there. > (In our commuter community college (adult enrichment, college > prep, basic and remedial skills, skill updating for local professionals, > job training for the digital sweatshop), the Chancellor took his large > "entourage" to China "to recruit students for the community college". > How many 18 year olds would relocate to a different continent for the sole > purpose of attending a local community college? > > Then they need to hire a consultant to define the problem. > > Then they need consultants to conduct studies. > > Then they need to contract with systems analysis consulting companies to > prepare proposals of possible solutions. > > Then they need engineering consultants to reject the current round of > proposals. > > Then they need to see if IBM wants to design a dedicated system. That may > require some more travel. > > Then they need to fly in the superintendent's brother in law to check it > out. > > Then, IFF there is any money left in the budget for the project, they can > hire a consultant to buy and set up an Arduino, or an old Amiga out of the > closet. > > Yes, they do spend somewhat more than the direct hardware cost. -------------- That seems to describe perfectly the approach to our (Canada's) federal payroll system that's gone from a $5 million contract to $180m in two years, with lots of employees still not getting their correct pay or any pay at all . http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/phoenix-ibm-contract-union-pay-government-1.4295827 Peanuts compared to Queensland's 6m to 1.2 billion disaster: http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/government-it/queensland-health-payroll-fail-government-ordered-to-pay-ibm-costs-20160404-gnxpqj.html Gotta hand it to IBM's lawyers though; they came out blameless... m