On 7/22/18 12:54 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
     > From: Mark Matlock

     > With the 11/83 the position of the memory board ... above the CPU uses
     > PMI

Yes, through the C-D interconnect; described in detail here:

   http://gunkies.org/wiki/CD_interconnect#Use_by_PMI

The 'above' is because the CD interconnect is not a true bus, it only
interconnected pairs of slots.

     > In the 11/84 the CPU is above the MSV11-JE memory

The PMI is still on the CD connector in this machine, but the PMI is wired as
a true bus on the backplane, allowing that ordering.

     > there are 3 Bus slots in the 11/84 above the Unibus map board, would it
     > be possible to put a dual width Q22 I/O board in the second memory slot
     > (not the PMI side of the slot) and have it able to DMA into the
     > MSV11-JE?

It is speculated that this should be possible, but there are jumpers on the
backplane you'd need to pull. See the writeup here:

   http://gunkies.org/wiki/PDP-11/84#QBUS_slots

You might also need a change to the device handler.  For example in RT-11 to support the mapped window from 18bit to 22bit, the DU handler (for a UC07) uses extended memory subroutine $MPPHY ($MPPTR)  tell the controller what addresses to use.  $MPPHY uses Q.PAR, which is the relocation constant for the UMR (when present).

Since this I/O isn't going through the KTJ11-B the handler at minimum would need to modified to use $MPMEM (Q.MEM) instead, to supply (in conjunction with Q.BUFF) the physical address.

Jerry



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