Dang it - the dates fooled me. (blush) Sorry to get your hopes up, Fritz.
Here is some more accurate information: The first set: The first page (the directory) is actually 6/76 in the revisions block. It is *later* than the one on bitsavers. Interesting, though: it actually shows TWO directories. One column is labeled 11/45-1 and the second 11/45-2. It looks like the 2nd column is for a later CPU, KB11-D. This set appears to be mostly index pages and chassis/power supply. The one on Bitsavers includes the KB11-A drawings, which I have as a separate document (complete with cover). The KT11-C is actually 12/75 It is *later* than the one on bitsavers. The KB11-A is actually 4/76 The FP11-B is 7/72 rather than 3/72 THIS IN FACT IS THE ONE ALREADY ON BITSAVERS: There is a name and "stamp" on the first page that is quite recognizable, and the dates on my scan match. So, I won't rescan it. ;) The FP11-C is 12/75 as noted [And is not currently on bitsavers] I will still scan them in except for the one (and the other manuals Noel identified). Apologies for the confusion. I was using the date in the date block on the bottom right of the first page - I didn't notice the revisions block on the bottom left. 8( JRJ On 1/27/2019 9:07 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctech wrote: > I think I can help some. I have a PDP-11/45 From U. Wisc. ECE that > claims to be S/N 1525 . > > * I do NOT have an actual wire list, it seems, but I will hunt a bit > more tomorrow or Tuesday. > > * I DO have earlier PDP-11/45 CPU drawings, but no ECO info > > > Here is what I have for drawings: > > B-DD-11/45-0-AJ Basic Assy (PDP11/45) 5/72 [Not CPU Cards] > D-CS-5409684-0-1-H 11/45 Console Board 3/72 > B-DD-KB11-A-0-AA 16 Bit Processor May-72 [NOT CPU HERE] > B-DD-DL11-0-K > B-DD-KW11-0-* > B-DD-BM873-0-F > B-DD-KT11-C-B > D-IC-11/45-0-1-H Power System Configuration > K-WL-7009540-0-2 Wire List (small - only 6 pages) > B-DD-861-0-L > B-DD-H7420-0-E > B-DD-H744-0-R > B-DD-H745-0-R > B-DD-H746-0-E > E-CS-H754-0-1-T > A-AL-11/45-0-3-B Accessory List > D-AR-11/45-0-4-C (Rack Configurations) > C-PL-11/45-0-4-D Arrangement Parts List > B-DD-M9301-0-D > > B-DD-KT11-C-B > [NOTE: Use KT11-C Only with KB11-A & FP11-B, > Use KT11-CD Only with KB11-D & FP11-C] > [M8107, M8108] > > > KB11-A Engineering Drawings [PDP-11/45 CPU] > KB11-A-0-AA Dated May 72 > [M8100, M8101, M8102, M8103, ROM Control Listings for M8103, > M8104, M8105, M8106, M8109, M8116, M930, M9202] > NO wire list > > (Curiously, I also have KB11-C, 11/70 drawings.) > > B-DD-MF11-U-B 16K Core [M8293, G235, G114, H217, M7259 (Parity Control)] > B-DD-MS11-B-B MOS Memory [M8110, G401] > B-DD-MS11-C-B Bipolar Memory [M8110, M8111] > B-DD-MS11-C-C Bipolar Memory (ECO MS11C-00003) Mentions M8120 > > B-DD-FB11-0-A FP11-B Floating Point Processor March 72 > [M8114, M8115, M8112, M8812 ROM Control Listings, M8813] > > B-TC-FP11-C-6 FP11-C (Print Set MP00038) December 75 > [M8126, M8127, M8128, M8129] > > DEC-11-HFPAA-C-D FP11 Floating Point Processor Maintenance Manual > DEC-11-FP11C-MM-001 FP11-C Floating Point Processor Maintenance Manual > EK-KT11C-MM-005 KT11-C, CD Memory Management Unit Maintenance Manual > EK-MS11A-MM-006 MS11-A,B,C memory System Maintenance Manual > > PDP-11 Systems Course Training Drawings > PDP-11/45, 11/70 Maintenance Course handout book > > And some diagnostic listings for the 11/40 and 11/45. > > I have not looked through my fiche for ECO info, though I am not > hopeful, but will look tomorrow. Most of my fiche are too modern. > > Let me know what you want me to scan - should be able to get to it later > this week. > > JRJ > > > On 1/27/2019 6:40 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: >> Those reading through the recent "PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem" thread here >> will know that I've gotten to some corners of my 11/45 CPU now that don't >> match up with the commonly available engineering drawings. >> >> My /45 is an early serial number (#152). So far I've verified hardware >> differences on at least my M8100 and M8105 cards and spares, relating to >> parity error abort handling. I would really like to track down any of the >> following resources: >> >> - PDP 11/45 system engineering drawings *earlier* than those currently >> available on bitsavers (Jun '74) >> >> - Any PDP 11/45 backplane wire list (what looks to be a wire list in the >> currently available engineering drawings is actually only a breakdown of the >> power harness.) >> >> - PDP 11/45 ECO information, particularly the following: >> >> M8100 00003 >> M8103 00005 >> M8105 00005 >> M8106 00007, 00008, 00012, 00012A >> M8110 00008 >> >> KB11-A 00015 >> >> Bitsavers seems to have a DEC-O-LOG for M8105, but this does not contain >> specifics on cuts and jumps for ECO 00005, referring only to the associated >> "kit". DEC-O-LOGs for the other processor boards are missing. >> >> If anybody thinks they might have any of this info squirreled away anywhere, >> I'd really love to find out more about it! >> >> Parts of the ECO's are pretty easy to figure, just by comparing the state of >> my existing boards to the '74 drawings. But other parts not so much... >> >> thanks much, >> --FritzM. >> >> >> >