At 03:13 PM 2/6/2019, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: >Lattice was the thing, back when I had Amiga. Too bad I could not >afford a harddisk :-).
As I related here back in 2005 and 2007: I believe I stuck with Manx Aztec C throughout my entire era of Amiga development. I liked it because it was more Unix-like. I got to know one of its developers, Jim Goodnow. I was supposed to have an article in one of first issues of Amigaworld, reviewing the Lattice C compiler. Because it wasn't positive enough, though, and a major advertiser (not a compiler developer, though) somehow saw the article and complained that it might not attract developers to the platform, it was canned and not published. Development on a floppy-based Amiga was incredibly painful. Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 07:39:08 -0500 To: <[email protected]> From: John Foust <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Re: XT 5160 X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <[email protected]> List-Id: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk.classiccmp.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.classiccmp.org/mailman/listinfo/cctalk>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> Sender: [email protected] Errors-To: [email protected] Status: At 04:15 AM 5/6/2005, Fred N. van Kempen wrote: >I remember using a very much UNIX-like C environment for DOS, >called "Manx C". It was small, has the usual "make-cc-as-ld-ar" >setup, and produced nice code. What happened to them? This was >around ~84 or so.. Nitpick: Manx Software was the company, "Aztec C" was the product, but it often became "Manx C" in conversation. I think they closed up shop in the mid 90s. At 05:56 AM 5/6/2005, Ethan Dicks wrote: >I remember them in the 1986-1990 timeframe with their Amiga product. >They were competing with Lattice (later SAS) C. I personally went >with Lattice for several reasons, none of which I can recall right >now. I do remember that Manx did embedded assembly just different >enough from Lattice that it was not trivial to port from one to the >other. Makefiles were different, too. Back in the Amiga days, both Lattice and Manx were small enough that the guys who wrote the compilers would hang out at the developer conferences, so we all knew Jim Goodnow, the main brains behind their C compiler. Same for the original guys at Lattice and the later SAS team at Lattice. They were always showing off their latest features in order to entice developers to switch. Many developers owned Lattice because it was the first officially supported compiler. Jim was quick to come up with many features that outpaced Lattice. I remember Jim explaining how they got started with cross-compilation on a PDP-11, moving into the 6502 market with Apple II, and Z-80 undr CP/M, then to the 68000 market with Mac, Atari and Amiga, as well as a PC version. The first developer kits for Amiga included the Lattice PC-hosted cross compiler. Inside Amiga, there were also Sun and Stride hosted systems, too. I remember editing and compiling on a Compaq luggable, then sending my executables over the serial port. Compilation on one- or two-floppy Amiga systems was a real pain. - John
