Lots of games available (do GRO to see the group listing), full HP contributed library (LIB). -Bob
-----Original Message----- From: cctalk <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob4schoolboard94 via cctalk Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:19 AM To: David Williams <[email protected]>; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh If it helps at all, I run a public hp2000/access emulated system that everyone is free to play with. It’s been up for many years. Telnet to Mickey.publicvm.com Do ctl m and ctl j till you see PLEASE LOG IN HEL-t001,hp2000,1 If anyone wants a personal account just let me know. -Bob -Bob > On Apr 9, 2020, at 11:18 PM, David Williams via cctalk > <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 2020-04-08 22:47, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: >> The HP Orsay (not Grenoble, as I misremembered) implementation is the >> only >> SNOBOL3 implementation I've used. There's a free SNOBOL4 >> implementation here for various PC operating systems: >> https://github.com/spitbol/ >> Actually, it's a SPITBOL implementation, which is a compiled version >> of SNOBOL4; see: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPITBOL >> I've used the Windows NT version for years; it's still my preferred >> language for string manipulation. Note that SNOBOL3 and SNOBOL4 are >> different syntactically, though learning one certainly would aid in >> learning the other. > > I first learn of SNOBOL4, still have my copy of the green book which was how > I first came across it. I know there are various versions available online > these days, just been low on the todo list. > >> If you're not necessarily wedded to the HP 21xx/1000 architecture, >> the HP >> 3000 simulator and its associated MPE operating system kit from the >> SIMH/HP site has a number of languages preinstalled: >> - BASIC (interpreter and compiler) >> - COBOL 68 >> - COBOL 74/85 >> - FORTRAN 66 >> - Pascal >> - RPG >> - SPL >> The latter is HP's proprietary Systems Programming Language, an >> ALGOL-like derivative used in lieu of assembler to implement MPE and >> most of the compilers and utilities. > > Only "wedded" to the HP 21xx for nostalgia purposes having been my first > exposure to computers and wanted to play with it some more. Having lots of > free time at the moment, I'm investigating lots of different systems. Mainly > via emulation/simulation. HP 3000 is certainly on the list and a lot of the > languages that you list there are on the "to play with" list so I'll probably > bump it up the todo list a bit. Would be fun to play around with COBOL, > FORTRAN and others again. I seem to recall we had a FORTRAN on our 2000F > which was my first exposure to that language but as it was under 2000F TSB I > assume it was something written in BASIC that either interpreted FORTRAN or > maybe a p-code like system or what I have no idea. Was so long ago I have old > print outs from it but don't recall anything more about it otherwise and > haven't ever seen anything about it in my limited searches. But it did start > me exploring other languages which lead me to discover SNOBOL and many others. > > David Williams
