How long do you think those poor machines cooked? I bet far, far
longer than the soldering temperature spec. likes.

--
Will

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 10:06 PM dwight via cctalk
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Most components can stand soldering temperatures. It is clear that it was 
> only hot enough to melt plastics. That isn't even hot enough to damage 
> boards. It is wasn't powered at the same time, it is unlikely to have been 
> harmed. I've seen cases where there were flames in the board area and parts 
> were not damaged. These were mostly wrapped in their cases. Melted plastics 
> most likely protected the boards from dangerous temperatures.
> Dwight
>
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>
>
> On 10/11/2020 6:34 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
> >> I suspect much of the electronics is fine. It would be good for someone 
> >> wanting backup cards.
> > You must be joking. Those cards are done. Any chip that is still
> > operational will likely fail upon or shortly after power is applied.
> >
> > --
> > Will
> >
> I agree.  Especially the ones heated high enough for the melted plastic
> or scorch damage.  A radiative and convective heat soak is pretty damaging.
>
> Consider the flow temperature of the materials inside.  Unless the fire
> was  flash fire, the entire thing would have been heated for some amount
> of time (15 minutes minimum usually, to 45 minutes) due to response time
> of the equipment.
>
> Not evident in the photos would be possible contamination from either
> fire suppressant materials or water to extinguish the blaze.
>
> Like I said, Ethan is looking for a cabinet for an 11/70 stripped out of
> such, and these probably are okay for that.  Maybe some of the other
> bits after inspectiong, but I'd not trust the boards up front.  It would
> be a project I'd want a solid shop of parts to do testing for every
> board involved to certify they work.
>
> Most people I know have one system in their basement, lab or garage, and
> I'd personally not want to put boards from a source like this into such,
> unless i had nothing to lose.
>
> thanks
> Jim

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