In answer to my own question: No it does not based on a bit of review. Looks like unique cards to the 11/70.

C


On 2/25/2021 1:43 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote:
Oh this is fun stuff. Is there a specification write-up anywhere on the MASSBUS overall?

For example I wonder if the RH70 could do a transfer >128kb at a time. Another is around the RH11: There were two models, the traditional RH11 (which could only do so many words on a DMA transfer) and the RH11-C which could do more words per transaction by basically running the Unibus in "Hog mode". That allowed the 2020 to run RM03's at a full 3600 RPM (and I assume can allow the 2020 to run things like RM80's).

Another item I always wondered about was the RH11's support of two unibuses. I think the idea was to do the data transfers on the second bus right to an 11/45's FASTBUS memory without worrying about DMA timeouts while running the control and status registers on the normal UNIBUS (which wouldn't block other devices). I wonder, does the MBA on an 11/70 use similar cards to an RH11?

C


On 2/25/2021 1:30 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
     > From: Paul Koning

     > There's a good reason why the big disks on many DEC machines were Massbus      > devices until MSCP arrived.  It's quite clear on Unibus PDP-11s, which      > needed Massbus both for speed and for a cleaner answer to more-than-18
     > bit addressing.

I follow the first sentence, but I'm confused by the second, especially "a
cleaner answer to more-than-18 bit addressing". The UNIBUS MASSBUS
controller/adapter, the RH11, only has 18-bit addressing on the main memory side. It does have more than 18-bit addressing on the device side, but so does the RP11 (sort of). Are you thinking of the RH70? That does have access to more than 2^18 bytes of main memory, but that's because it connects to the -11/70 memory bus (as well as the UNIBUS, which is only used for control, not
data).

Similar questions about the speed point; passing data through an RH11 doesn't increase the speed of the UNIBUS? Yes, the RH70 is faster, but that's because
of its connection to the -11/70 memory bus.

    Noel

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