> On May 7, 2021, at 11:45 AM, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com> wrote:
> 
> On 05/07/2021 07:10 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>> 
>> They built an interesting hybrid system where you could write the design 
>> partly as geometries (for things like memory cells), partly as transistors, 
>> partly as gates, and partly as C code. I remember an example, where they had 
>> a transistor schematic for a single-bit latch, and then wrapped it in a 
>> loop: "for (i=0; i < 64; i++) { <schematic> }". The magic was that (apart 
>> from the few bits of explicit geometry-level design) it was all 
>> parameterized, so they could regenerate the actual wafer geometry overnight 
>> for a new fab. 
> That sounds a lot like VHDL, which can be used to synthesize chip layout.

It's a bit different.  In VHDL you can do gate level or behavioral modeling, 
but the idea of wrapping a picture in a "for" loop was something I haven't seen 
anywhere else.

Also, this was 30 years ago, roughly, when chip design technology was a whole 
lot more limited.

>> Another part of the puzzle was figuring out how to feed 100 watts of power 
>> to a chip, and get rid of that amount of heat, neither of which were 
>> anywhere close to what was done at the time. I still have some of the tech 
>> reports that describe that piece (and I contributed a wild idea -- which 
>> unfortunately DEC didn't get around to patenting before the project was shut 
>> down). paul 
> IBM was tinkering with high density ECL system construction from 1965 or so, 
> as a follow-on to the System 360.  They had several aborted projects, FS 
> (Future System) and ACS (Advanced Computer System) that were very advanced 
> supercomputers.  The technology eventually came out as the
> 309x series, with several hundred MSI ECL chips on a ceramic interconnect 
> substrate, water-cooled
> with a big plate with copper "nails" that pressed down on the back of the 
> ICs.  That was the 308x system, introduced in 1984.

The packaging work DEC did included building a heat pipe package that could 
handle well over 100 watts with air cooling, and also an investigation of the 
current carrying limits of chip bond wires.  It turned out gold wires have 
really good properties: they handle a whole lot of current and they have a very 
clear upper limit; stay even a little below that limit and the wires last 
basically forever.

        paul

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