David Greelish's upcoming documentary has interviews of the people involved with the original project, and the subject of Xerox and all that is pretty well covered. I got a preview of the documentary, wait for it to come out.....my Lisa is at 1hr13 mins in...This is an important documentary because it is thoroughly researched and we can all stop copy and pasting from wikipedia to act like we know what we're talking about. b
On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 9:04 PM Tony Jones via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 5:29 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > Apple didn't "steal" anything because > > ..... > > > I can't believe people still don't have a solid grasp of these things after > > 40 years of both journalism and academia covering them in rather > exhaustive > > detail. > > > > People likely don't have the solid grasp you feel they should because it's > probably not that important to them. Hence some of the myth's live on. > > No-one mentioned "steal"ing in this thread AFAICT until now so I assume > you're talking in the general population sense rather than members of this > list. Also it's pretty subjective what "steal" means. Hertzfeld when > asked took a very literal view "literally no code was taken, I mean not a > single line of code". By that definition I doubt Microsoft took a line of > code from Apple either but it didn't stop Apple suing them for copyright > infringement :-) > > I think Atkinson is on record as saying the Goldberg demo was just a > confirmation (for him) that a more graphical approach was the way forward. > I believe until then the Lisa project had been text based. I would not be > the slightest bit surprised to find out that Atkinson had already seen > demo's of Smalltalk 76 or 78. I get the impression PARC people smuggled > outsiders in late at night to see what they were working on.. It really > was all about getting Jobs on the same page. >
