In order to have the "world beat a path" to a new microprocessor is has the be sufficiently better than what is there to justify the time and expense.  Intel doesn't know how to architect a decent CPU.  They just keep kludging their previous successes.

From what I heard from some inside sources around the time that the PC came out, IBM didn't pick the 8088 for it's speed or ease of use.  Quite the contrary, they chose it because it was slow and they could buy part of Intel.  They didn't want their $10,000 computer competing with their bread and butter main frames.

A 68000 could address more memory than a basic IBM 360 (which could only address up to 64K) and was faster as well.  As a matter of fact when IBM created the System 360 PC card that was an IBM 360 on a card that plugged into an IBM Xt is used a re-microcoded 68000 to emulate the System 360.




On 11/16/2024 7:49 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
Why did those processors not catch on?
It seems to me that hardware people had a “if we build it, they will come” 
mentality and hoped other companies would adopt it and actually write software 
to make it useful.

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On Nov 16, 2024, at 17:38, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

On 11/16/24 16:24, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:

So, Intel went with the "quick fix" rather than the long-term good.
Okay, I vass dere and know what we were being told by Intel marketing in
the late 70s.  The 8086 was not intended to be the eventual migration
target for larger-scale applications.  Similar claims can be made for
the 80186--it was mostly intended for embedded applications.

The thing that was supposed to be the architecture to hang one's hat on
was the iAPX432.  Intel's "Clean Slate" which was a horrible flop.
Another "clean slate" was the i860; my i860 reference manual has a
statement by BillG saying that MS intended to develop for that platform.
It seems that every time that Intel tries to do development from a
tabula rasa, they get burned.  Witness Itanium/IA64.

The thing that saved Intel's bacon on several occasions was their
liberal licensing.  Would we even have had the IBM 5150 if there weren't
a pile of second sources for the 8088?  My early 5150 had an AMD CPU in it.

--Chuck



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