Re: Old Windows drivers. Drivers written for windows before Vista will not work in windows Vista and later. This is because MS changed the way drivers are initiated from vista on so old drivers simply won’t start.
Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 17, 2025, at 10:13, Martin Bishop via cctalk <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Paul > > You are quite correct regarding the utility and limitations of Amd and > Lattice's offerings. > > Like you I have "dead" Lattice CPLD designs. Where clone's won't serve a > respin to XO2 being necessary. Best not to ask how long the XO2 licence will > be gratis. > > I was once assured by an FAE that the "cheap" way to obtain IP was as an > element of a support bundle : training credits, IP and tools licenses for an > N kilo quantity of currency. Not cheap enough for /work. > > Martin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Koning [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 17 October 2025 12:59 > To: [email protected] > Cc: Martin Bishop <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [cctalk] Classic computing - earliest years > > > >> On Oct 17, 2025, at 7:17 AM, Martin Bishop via cctalk >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Both Xilinx and Microchip have linux builds of their tools. Also, news to >> me that Linux or Windows FPGA tools cost money, not for "simple" devices see >> https://www.fpgadeveloper.com/list-of-fpga-dev-boards-dont-require-license/ >> . >> >> Note that "simple" devices are pretty complex : Artix, Zynq 030, UltraZynq >> 7EV, etc see >> https://www.amd.com/en/products/software/adaptive-socs-and-fpgas/vivado/vivado-buy.html > > Yes, Xilinx seems to be quite good about free licenses for most anything > hobbyists are likely to use. > >> As for PALs Lattice support for anything prior to the XO2's is priced at >> legacy support rates, the users are expected to be performing long term >> support of obsolete systems (cheaper to pay than redesign) for the obvious >> client list, I suspect the tools would otherwise have been orphaned. Hard >> pressed to see what else you might use a PAL for in 2025. > > I used to pay Lattice for license renewal for CPLD design I did occasionally. > Finally dropped it when the pricing got out of hand. > > For hobby purposes, it's occasionally frustrating that somewhat more advanced > IP isn't available in hobbyist form. I would like to do a software defined > radio with modern front end chips, but they are all JESD and the Xilinx IP > for that is only available under an expensive commercial license, not a hobby > or even academic license last I looked. And trying to spin my own JESD might > be doable but certainly seems quite hard. > > paul
