I wish I knew what you guys were complaining about. You can dowhatever you want 
to your machine.  
This thread sounds like a bunch of old guys complaining because they can’t 
understand whats going on. 
Get off my lawn!


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> On Nov 24, 2025, at 20:28, Murray McCullough via cctalk 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Jon Elson wrote:
> 
> “Was just too daunting and I gave up on it.”
> 
> I think this tells us why the ‘ownership’ of computers is the way it is
> now! As another writer wrote recently, and I apologize for not remembering
> his name, says: “Rights to your own machine are hobbled by legal
> restrictions” and I’ll add security concerns. We live in a much different
> world than what was in the 70’s and 80’s. Firmware plays an equal role as
> access to root system isn’t possible; booting a computer was possible at
> root level-not now; BIOS/UEFI are paramount these days and access to TPM
> isn’t possible for average computer users. One’s computer must not be
> susceptible to unauthorized individuals or even now it seems the owner.
> 
> Murray 🙂
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 10:38 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Here's one: Cramer Intel 8080A Microcomputer
>> https://vintagecomputer.net/browse_thread.cfm?id=819
>> Wire-wrapped 8080 system built to compete in the Altair market, and
>> flopped.
>> 
>> " Cramer Electronics Incorporated started advertising this 8080 kit
>> microcomputer, the "Cramerkit", in late 1975 for $495 (or was it $1495?)
>> but none were delivered until the spring of 1976. The Cramerkit was
>> designed by Microcomputer Technique Inc. and was shipped partially
>> assembled. "
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 10:04 PM Jon Elson via cctalk <
>> [email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/23/25 22:13, ben via cctalk wrote:
>>>> Who has strange or one of a kind computers out there?
>>>> I have a 18 bit homebrew (cpld) with 256Kb ram and just a
>>>> bootstrap loader.
>>>> 
>>> I built a 32-bit bit slice processor out of AMD 2903 and
>>> 2910 parts.  See:
>>> 
>>> https://pico-systems.com/stories/1982.html
>>> 
>>> I did write a micro assembler for it and ran a few test
>>> programs.  But, the work ahead of me (interfacing memory and
>>> an I/O bus, writing 360 microcode and coming up with a
>>> Pascal compiler and writing my own OS and editor, etc. was
>>> just too daunting and I gave up on it.
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>> 

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