Rob

Series R on logic outputs are a classic "taming" mechanism, they also provide 
access to the net for more extreme measures (eg C to ground).  Usu 22R or 33R 
close to the driver to bring the probable source impedance to 50Z - matching 
the nominal track impedance.  The design may be evolved to include parallel 
(DC) termination or AC termination (series R & C) for multidrop loads.  For 
2025 circuits much of this is moot, the track lengths are so short, in the 
1980's it was different ...

IBIS models for devices of interest and the wisdom of HoJo's oeuvre are the 
classic references 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/High-Speed-Signal-Propagation-Advanced/dp/013084408X/ref=sr_1_1

HtH

Martin

Ho Jo : Howard Johnston

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Subject: [cctalk] Re: Hot Video Shift Register on VT100

The series R or L in the S299 clock line (that you mentioned are present in 
respective later models) are there to suppress parisitic oscillation / ringing.

It may be that ringing - even if not going negative - is upsetting the internal 
transitions somewhat, for example resulting in some overlapping conduction in 
totem-pole drivers, and may well be why they added the series R/L in later 
models.

If you wanted to experiment, you could try raising the IC a fraction of an inch 
on some extenders** - except for the clock pin where you shall insert a small-Ω 
R in series as the later model did (was it 36Ω?), you don’t necessarily have to 
find an L.

Or if you’re careful you may even avoid extending the whole IC, by bending the 
clock pin on the IC out just far enough so it misses the socket pin while 
inserting the IC, and connecting the R in series (close in, not on long clip 
leads, could tack-solder one lead to the IC pin, then a fine wire on the other 
lead with a piece of slide-on insulation to get down between the legs to the 
socket pin).

** individual pins from machine-pin IC sockets can be nice for this, or an IC 
socket with wire stubs, or wire stubs soldered to IC pins seeing as how the 
removed IC is already solder-tainted, just use wire small enough not to damage 
the socket you're inserting into.


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