This is a very poor machine transcription of a Zoom conversation I had with 
Charles about 5 years ago.

I went flying with him once a month.

00:15:04 Charles Simonyi

Yeah the yeah this uh this kind of third hand plane and then flying with him 
and.

00:15:15 Charles Simonyi

We were flying at night and we had a complete electrical failure.

00:15:21 Paul McJones

Oh, really.

00:15:22 Charles Simonyi

Yeah, in the San Jose airspace.

00:15:27 Charles Simonyi

And dum dum.

00:15:31 Charles Simonyi

There are actual procedures to come to.

00:15:37 Charles Simonyi

Do.

00:15:40 Charles Simonyi

You approach an airport with radio failure.

00:15:43 Charles Simonyi

He was supposed to fly by the You know lookout.

00:15:47 Charles Simonyi

Of course it was.

00:15:48 Charles Simonyi

It was completely beautiful weather, you know, zillion visibility and and you 
were supposed to fly by the.

00:15:57 Charles Simonyi

Uhm, he knew all the procedure.

00:16:00 Charles Simonyi

We fly by the the control tower and then they guide you down with this thing 
called the light gun.

00:16:07 Charles Simonyi

Which is a colored oh colored thing that actually you can see even in the 
movies.

00:16:13 Charles Simonyi

You can see it kind of hanging from the from the ceiling.

00:16:16 Charles Simonyi

There's this big flashlights, you know that you you can direct at planes and 
and and the weird thing is that that.

00:16:27 Charles Simonyi

I was learning to fly at the time, so I'm doing a little bit of knowledge and 
and the when you clear to land, it's a it's steady green.

00:16:38 Charles Simonyi

And flashing green means standby.

00:16:40 Charles Simonyi

OK, wait for the client and and we saw this.

00:16:45 Charles Simonyi

I saw flashing green.

00:16:47 Charles Simonyi

And I said, wait, wait, it's we are not clear.

00:16:50 Charles Simonyi

Yeah.

00:16:51 Charles Simonyi

And and how it said no, no, no.

00:16:53 Charles Simonyi

That's a steady light, except that they are not hitting us, right?

00:16:58 Charles Simonyi

Oh Oh yeah, yeah.

00:16:58 Charles Simonyi

Oh yeah.

00:16:58 Charles Simonyi

 

00:16:59 Charles Simonyi

So I've just realized and and he said just look very close to the source and 
you can see a little bit of of the beam and see that it's steady.

00:17:10 Paul McJones

OK.

00:17:10 Paul McJones

OK.

00:17:11 Charles Simonyi

And and I realized.

00:17:13 Charles Simonyi

I mean, I still remember how.

00:17:15 Charles Simonyi

You know, and then you would have to see this in a simulator or something.

00:17:19 Charles Simonyi

Otherwise you know if I had been alone, I would have never landed because they 
they can't take you straight.

00:17:26 Paul McJones

Yeah, yeah.

00:17:26 Charles Simonyi

And I was thinking about this silly, silly distinction.

00:17:31 Charles Simonyi

Because, operationally, it's it's very difficult to tell the difference, But 
anyway.

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