On Tue, 2 Aug 2016, Myles Mc Manus wrote:
> As someone who uses CDE everyday, I really appreciate all the work that 
> has been done to fix bugs and make the whole thing more stable. Some 
> really outstanding work has been done, and I am very grateful for it.

It really surprised me to see both Motif and CDE get open sourced. I'm 
very pleasantly surprised and like you, grateful.

> [...] my suggestion for the next Herculean Task would be to fix 
> installation.

Both at my job and at home I have access to a fairly large number of 
platforms. I'd be happy to provide some more testing if that helps.

I also package a lot of software (job related) into binary packages for 
older platforms. I use EPM a lot for that task and it's an excellent 
resource. It allows you to build very clean packages that can easily be 
installed or un-installed using "shar"-like functionality. The packages 
aren't in "native" format which actually can help prevent collisions with 
dependencies. I typically will use a custom install prefix, and CDE seems 
happy residing in /usr/dt or /opt/cde. So, that might work out swimmingly. 

EPM Project
https://www.msweet.org/projects.php?Z2

Another outrageously cool thing EPM can do is create multi-platform 
packages that "just work" on multiple OSes. 

> Ideally, CDE should be installable from repositories.

Yep. That's tougher because sometimes you need political buy-in from the 
maintainers, though I doubt CDE would find that hard to garner. There is 
also the option to create a dedicated CDE repo for Yum/Apt/Zypper 
(Fedora/Debian/SuSE). We'd just need dedicated hosting somewhere. I have 
experience with setting up Yum, Apt, PPA, Zypper, and others on the server 
side. Also HPUX still has a free and well organized resource in the HP-UX 
Porting and Archive Centre and it's "depothelper" tool. Also, as I 
mentioned pkgsrc covers a wide variety of OS's, but it's got a bit of a 
learning curve, too.

> But to substantially increase the user base, I think a move away from 
> "here's a bunch of source code and some arcane instructions" should be 
> included on the to-do list.

I totally agree. I'm in the same boat. I can do it with no sweat, but to 
spread the word it's more advantageous to be easier & accessible. Also 
with some old-school cache' that CDE possesses, having someone create a 
press release from the project when you hit major release milestones or 
ports/packages will help distribution as a lot of geek-news would run the 
story.

-Swift

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