I do not understand all this. It seems to me that something bad happened for no reason.

Isn't it true that Chase does (or did) work for CDE? Judging from Jon's response, the answer is "yes". From his email it is clear that he does not want to give his information to companies. He is not the only person with this preference in the open source community. On the contrary.

So why the answer from Peter is "I do not care" ? He may indeed not care, but he also could rephrase "sorry, I do not have enough time for this, please reconsider about an account". (I do not try/want to teach anyone, this is why I wrote "could" and not "should").

Moreover, the CDE is not in the cold war era anymore. The "I do not care" may sound
OK in the US but to other cultures it is a direct insult.

As it is reasonable to say that being in a mailing list you must be polite, it is also reasonable
to say that the main people of the project must also be polite 3 times more.

I also experienced similar problems as Chase. I have some scripts that add modern apps to the CDE desktop but I do not know how to incorporate them to CDE. I explained this to Jon and he offered to help. He could also say "sorry, I do not have the time, I can not help,
leave it for later" which would also be a good answer.
But if his answer was "I do not care" it would make me feel very bad for no reason.

So, Peter, you have helped so much for CDE to be available again and we thank you for this. Please help on such issues. Do not do the work Chase asks for. But please do care.

best,

Antonis.

PS I hope Chase will get back to developing for CDE and find a solution to the privacy issue. Maybe someone else can help. Maybe I can help if one explains me what is needed to do. I think I do have an account on sf since I have edited the CDE wiki many times.



On 25/06/2018 04:37 πμ, Jon Trulson wrote:
On 06/24/2018 06:47 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote:
I'm the one being disrespectful huh...

Alright, I won't argue, if that's the consensus, effective
immediately I am ceasing my contributions to CDE and unsubscribing
from this mailing list.

I was trying really hard to ignore this thread...

Chase, it is your choice not to register for an SF account.  You are perfectly in your rights to do that.

But I think it is unreasonable for you to expect others to be responsible for the consequences of that choice.  I figured you would get that, the first time you made the request and no one responded.

I'd rather you not leave - I think your contributions were very helpful, but again, it's your choice.  You're welcome back at any time.


> I will explain to my sponsors that there is no desire to see CDE
> packaged.

Well that would be a false statement.  I'd love to see CDE packaged in Debian as an option some day.

-jon

[...]


‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On June 24, 2018 7:24 PM, Christopher Turkel <turkel.christop...@gmail.com> wrote:

Jon is correct, you should do your own work. Your contributions are in a public repository already, Sourceforge knows your name :-) However, such name calling will not be tolerated. I have been here about as long as Peter and Jon, I may be employee #3. So be respectful, please.

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 8:14 PM Chase via cdesktopenv-devel <cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote:

    Ah, no wonder why Jon is the co leader of this project, you are
    very abrasive for no reason, especially towards someone who does
    free work.


    Thank you for your time,

    -Chase

    ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐

    On June 24, 2018 7:05 PM, Peter Howkins <peter.howk...@marutan.net
    <mailto:peter.howk...@marutan.net>> wrote:

    >
    >
    > On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 at 01:00, Chase nicetry...@protonmail.ch
    <mailto:nicetry...@protonmail.ch> wrote:
    >
    > > The mystery man himself speaks!
    > >
    > > I'd rather not make an account, I am a bit paranoid about
    another big corporation having my personal data and it getting
    leaked. Jon can testify :)
    >
    > I don't care. Open an account and open the tickets. When you open an
    >
    > account you can even edit the wiki which is something you've asked
    >
    > others to do.
    >
    > I'd rather you stopped asking other people to do work for you.
    >
    > Peter



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