On 07/19/2018 08:15 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote:
Hi Jon,
Do I understand correctly that dtapp is meant to function in the same vein as
open, xdg-open, gnome-open, etc?
As in, I can type
$ dtapp mypic.jpg
And my picture will open up in some suitable image viewer? If so, might you
consider continuing this naming convention by naming it dtopen? (or have I
misunderstood, and maybe it just returns a string?)
It's not a critical point, but I thought I might mention it for consideration
before dtapp gets wired into everything and particularly before people start
using it/scripting with it =)
That's a good point. At XiG, I called it dthelper, but I didn't like
that so I used dtapp for these commit(s). I don't really like that
either. :)
Right now, dtapp is just a simple shell script that is symlinked to
various per-type specific "aliases" - ie: for images it would be
dtapp_vimage "filename"
to call a list of programs in order to display it (xv, display, etc).
I didn't really like "dtapp" and "dtapp_vimage", etc though.
I like your idea a lot better. dtopen would be the "base", it's
symlinked aliases would be something like dtopen_image, dtopen_video, etc.
Yes, I do like that name a lot better. I'll make the change.
In the future, we can certainly enhance/replace dtopen if/when we like.
Thanks for the suggestion!
-jon
- mrt
Original Message
From: Jon Trulson
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 21:05
To: Antonis Tsolomitis; cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [cdesktopenv-devel] Integration of Antonis Tsolomitis'
desktop_approots tarball, with some changes
Hi Antonis,
I'm also CC'ing the CDE list for their information as well.
I have finally managed to integrate much of the stuff you provided in
your desktop_approots tarball. WRT the icons, I just put them all in.
If someone has a problem and complains, they can just ask us to remove it.
I did not incorporate your Greek versions of the .dt files. I don't
think CDE has enough in it to actually support the Greek locale, as
there is no Greek localization database. I am not sure if you just add
the Greek support on top of a built CDE, or what as there is currently
no support for installing the Greek locale.
So I am confused. If you build CDE from scratch, how do you install it?
And does everything work properly in Greek?
At any rate, until we know what's going on there, I did not add those
files as they would need to be redone anyway to reference appropriate
Greek messages via the NLS substitution that goes on when generating the
final .dt files for each locale.
I made some other changes as well. I mentioned that I had created a
"helper" program at XiG that would look for a command in a command list
to do various things like display an image, display a video, etc. It's
now installed in /usr/dt/bin/dtapp.
I created 4 new actions that use this new helper script:
DisplayImage, DisplayVideo, DisplayPS, DisplayPDF
These are now called on the appropriate files (DisplayImage for .png,
.jpg, etc files).
The actions you provided for xv, xpdf, gv, and vlc are still present,
but no longer contain the data type definitions. Only Actions are
present in those files now.
The video datatypes have been moved into a new videoTypes.dt file. All
that file is for, is to detect video files, display the proper icon
(video) and call the appropriate action (DisplayVideo).
The other datatypes for PS, PDF, and images (jpg, png, etc) have been
moved into datatypes.dt (or replaced the disabled ones already there).
So with these commits, all of your appgroups are present and will run
the appropriate program if it exists.
And image, video, PDF and postscript files will now be handled by dtapp,
which will look for and call the first appropriate program found.
In time we should also add support for audio handling, and maybe split
out some of the stuff in datatypes.dt into appropriate .dt files
(soundTypes.dt, etc).
Thanks much for your contribution!
-jon
On 06/27/2018 07:54 AM, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote:
Dear Jon,
I attach two things. The desktop_approots.tgz which contains the setup
for modern apps
and the file icons.txt which contains the paths of the icons that are
taken from GPL programs (except xv).
To install desktop_approots on a system you execute as root:
mv desktop_approots.tgz /etc/
tar -xzvf desktop_approots.tgz
cd desktop_approots/
./integrate_all_apps.sh
Then you either logout-login or reload applications and actions.
To deinstall, each folder in desktop_approots/ contains a deinstallation
script.
Please use the files I send now and not the older one as I corrected
several things/bugs.
All applications will appear in the Application manager of CDE and can
be dragged and dropped on open drawers
of the CDE panel.
Now, I have taken some decisions for this. Some are obvious. For
example, odt/doc/xls etc files open with
libreoffice (careful: some systems call it soffice, others
libreoffice-version. In such cases one must create
links)
Others are less obvious:
1. Media files open with vlc (I think is the most popular)
2. pictures open with xv. This I do not like because it is not a free
program but a decision is needed. What to use?
Eye of gnome? Eye of mate? something else. I chose xv as it looks
good on CDE. But if you tell me to change it
to something else I will gladly do it.
3. postscript files open with gv (not installed by default on most systems)
4. pdf files open with xpdf (again not installed by default on most
systems. Any other suggestion is welcome)
However the icon for pdf files is chosen to be the one for
acroread. People are familiar with it.
Finally one of the very useful applications for a desktop is pavucontrol
called PulseAudioCtrl in Application Manager
(group Sound&Video)
since CDE lacks an app for sound. Actually I think that this application
is absolutely needed. Maybe it should be even
by default installed in some drawer of the panel.
I also think that the default action of the mailer must change in the
distribution of CDE to something else until dtmail
gets fixed to work in a modern environment. Evolution of thunderbird are
great choices.
For any bugs or suggestions for improvement, please write to me.
Thank you for your help,
Antonis.
[...]
--
Jon Trulson
"Fire all weapons and open a hailing frequency for my victory yodle."
- Zapp Brannigan
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