On 07/31/2018 07:53 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote:
Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> writes:

Not a clue.  I think ultimately we would want it to generate HTML and
just use a web browser for both help and the guides.

I'd really hate to see that.

* DtInfo is part of CDE.

* DtInfo (like all of CDE) is very lightweight.

* DtInfo provides index and search capabilities (this is a primary
   strength of DocBook).  Doesn't that sort of go out the window with
   HTML?


Well, converting to docbook XML (not html) should preserve all of that functionality actually. With that, we could generate HTML if we wanted, or PDF's of the guides, or a variety of other formats. But I don't know what the cde-specific software like dthelp and dtinfo are actually doing.

There's the format and manipulation of the documentation itself - this is what I'm talking about.

Then there is the software that deals with it - dtinfo, dthelp, man page generation, etc. That is what I have little knowledge about.

It might be one thing if we were just starting out with a new
documentation system, but we have rich tooling in place already.  Heck,
we already have it all in tree.  I believe I understand the general
thrust of moving to out-of-tree XML, but I don't want to sacrifice
quality (e.g. look-and-feel or functionality) in the name of newer,
out-of-tree technology.


I'm not sure what you mean by out-of-tree technology. I do not think trying to maintain ancient copies of code (nsgmls, et. al) is a viable solution. No one maintains it.

I'm not suggesting we do away with dtinfo and the like, at least not initially (until we know a lot more).

I do suggest we offload the utilities portion (like osgmls) to OS versions and not keep bit-rotting versions in our tree.

I am also for converting the current older SGML document formats to XML and docbook 5. As to how that affects dthelp/dtinfo, I just don't know at this time.

I was hoping others here would :)

-jon


At least in the simple case.  There is also dtsearch/dtmmdb which fits
into all this somewhere as well.

But a conversion to XML for the documents themselves seems quite
possible with some inevitable tweaking.


This ought to be possible.  I would imagine our existing tooling should
basically handle XML DocBook.


-mrt


--
Jon Trulson

"Fire all weapons and open a hailing frequency for my victory yodle."

                              - Zapp Brannigan

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