Hi Thomas, CDK developers and users,

I have just submitted the patch for the atom type enrichment int he CDK.

Best wishes,

Asad


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> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 15:28:53 +0200
> From: Thomas Strunz <beginn...@hotmail.de>
> Subject: [Cdk-user] Feature and Performance updates reported in blogs:
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> Hi all,
> 
> I saw these to blog posts:
> 
> http://chembioinfo.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/benchmarking-substructure-search/
> http://chembioinfo.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/improved-atom-typing-cdk/
> 
> Both state an important problem for my usage of CDK.
> 
> My Question is, when (if not already) are such improvements inserted into the 
> public release of cdk?
> 
> And where could  I actually see if they where already included?
> 
> 
> Best regards,
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> Thomas
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> From: Nina Jeliazkova <jeliazkova.n...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cdk-user] Feature and Performance updates reported in
>       blogs: When do they appear in "public CDK"?
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> On 11 July 2011 16:28, Thomas Strunz <beginn...@hotmail.de> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I saw these to blog posts:
>> 
>> 
>> http://chembioinfo.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/benchmarking-substructure-search/
>> http://chembioinfo.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/improved-atom-typing-cdk/
>> 
>> Both state an important problem for my usage of CDK.
>> 
>> My Question is, when (if not already) are such improvements inserted into
>> the public release of cdk?
>> 
> 
> 
>> And where could  I actually see if they where already included?
>> 
>> 
> I guess the release change logs could tell this.
> 
> Best regards,
> Nina
> 
> P.S. I was not aware of the second link, adding 90 atom types is indeed a
> huge improvement.
> 
> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
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> From: Egon Willighagen <egon.willigha...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cdk-user] Feature and Performance updates reported in
>       blogs: When do they appear in "public CDK"?
> To: Thomas Strunz <beginn...@hotmail.de>
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> Hi Thomas,
> 
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Thomas Strunz <beginn...@hotmail.de> wrote:
>> My Question is, when (if not already) are such improvements inserted into
>> the public release of cdk?
> 
> As soon as I we get to see patches and they have been reviewed and
> approved. Gilleain is looking at the patches above, if not mistaken,
> so contact him to ask him about that state, and perhaps if you can
> contribute.
> 
> Egon
> 
> -- 
> Dr E.L. Willighagen
> Postdoctoral Researcher
> Institutet f?r milj?medicin
> Karolinska Institutet (http://ki.se/imm)
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> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 08:56:08 +0200
> From: Egon Willighagen <egon.willigha...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Cdk-user] Exceptions again: three designs. What will we
>       use in the next CDK series (1.6 or 2.0)?
> To: Thomas Strunz <beginn...@hotmail.de>
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> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Thomas Strunz <beginn...@hotmail.de> wrote:
>> IMHO it must get more granular and also I really don't like the fact that
>> CDKException is a checked exception. In most of the cases it is just
>> annoying and useless.
> 
> I think I disagree. You can get any Runtime exception and never know
> what to expect.
> 
> Invalid input is very common here, and your software needs to recover
> from that, and differently from other situations. I think a Runtime
> exception should only happen when something *unexpected* happened,
> like OutOfMemory or so...
> 
>> I know, endless debate and maybe you have had it several times but for me as
>> user as it is now: annoying like hell. Just like pure JDBC.
>> 
>> other frameworks that use Runtime exceptions are IMHO a lot more friendlier
>> to work with.
> 
> Why do you find it annoying? And useless? Why do you find Runtime
> exceptions from user friendly?
> 
> Egon
> 
> -- 
> Dr E.L. Willighagen
> Postdoctoral Researcher
> Institutet f?r milj?medicin
> Karolinska Institutet (http://ki.se/imm)
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:23:39 +0200
> From: Vincent Le Guilloux <vincent.le-guill...@univ-orleans.fr>
> Subject: [Cdk-user] New free CDK software
> To: "cdk-user@lists.sourceforge.net" <cdk-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
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> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Just to inform everyone about a new free software that makes use of the CDK:
> http://sa2.sourceforge.net/
> 
> This software is basically able to manage small to very large chemical  
> libraries (we have millions of compounds in our in-house database),  
> and any sets of properties associated with each molecules, through a  
> MySQL database. Various chemoinformatics analysis can then be  
> performed on top of the database.
> 
> It makes uses of the CDK-jcp nightly built picked up here (as I need  
> depiction too):
> http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/nightly-jcp/
> 
> It uses various CDK functionalities, including descriptors /  
> fingerprints calculation, substructure search, 2D depiction, SMART  
> macthing...
> 
> From a developer point of view, it is based on the NetBeans Platform,  
> and is therefore quite modular.
> 
> The software will be licensed under the GPL v2 license. Currently, the  
> sources are not available yet, as I want to stabilize and document the  
> API before releasing it.
> 
> FYI, and as asked by Egon, I've encountered various problems using the  
> CDK during the development of the software, some of which are listed  
> here:
> - Atom types not recognized
> - Various problems with SDF reader / writer, which have been fixed now  
> for most of them I think.
> - SMART matching problems, mainly a performance issue (I've run very  
> basic tests comparing CDK, JOELib and Indigo for those who are  
> interested in the details).
> - Invalid SMILES reading (fixed now I guess)
> 
> An article is on its way too, but not submitted yet.
> 
> Cheers :)
> 
> -- 
> Vincent Le Guilloux
> 
> Phd Student - ICOA - UMR CNRS 6005
> Div. of chemoinformatic and molecular modeling.
> University of Orl?ans
> Phone: ++33 2 38 49 45 77
> Fax  : ++33 2 38 41 72 81
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, security 
> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes 
> sense of it. IT sense. And common sense.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2d-c2
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