Hi, 
i am not talking about completely insane IE5 :-), but for example the Debian 
6,7, Gentoo, Ubuntu 12.04 and some other Linux distributions still ship IcedTea 
6 as default and there are still maintenance releases for IcedTea 6 (latest is: 
1.13.4 / July 15, 2014) [1]. Java 8 is not available at all for Debian 6,7 and 
Ubuntu 12.04 without third party repositories. 
I guess it is fine for a library to plan a little bit ahead and i am no fan of 
old software or the "never change a running system" philosophy, but i guess we 
have to live with Java 7 in an average environment for a much longer time than 
for the next 7 month. 

Furthermore, i think, that especially scientific software is often is used in 
environments, which are not connected to the Internet and where updating Java 
is not that easy because it also implies updating other components, which might 
be expensive, not yet tested, etc.. 

Side Story: At the Scaffold Hunter Project [2] we have also thought about 
dropping Java 6 support, but dropping Java 7 is not possible at this time. So 
please do not require 1.8 at least for the next stable releases of CDK. 

Regards,
Till

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IcedTea
[2] http://scaffoldhunter.sourceforge.net/

Am Freitag, 29. August 2014, 13:59:09 schrieb John May:
> Hi Till,
> 
> True - but then there are a lot of companies still use IE 5 and Windows XP. 
> Java 1.7 support is being retired seven months and this was why I think going 
> straight to 1.8 would be better.
> 
> Cheers,
> J
> 
> On Aug 29, 2014, at 1:51 PM, Till Schäfer <till2.schae...@tu-dortmund.de> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, 
> > Indeed, a requirement on Java 1.8 would be very hard, but i guess "go 
> > straight to 1.8" means support 1.8 at all?! Otherwise, there are a lot of 
> > computers our there (especially in some companies) who could not provide a 
> > very new Java Version (1.8).
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Till
> > 
> > Am Freitag, 29. August 2014, 05:04:56 schrieb Cyrus Harmon:
> >> 
> >> I’m not sure if this is a compelling reason or not, but the version of the 
> >> JRE that comes with current MacOS is 1.7, I think.
> >> 
> >> I assume that changing the JDK to 1.8 would necessitate a 1.8 JRE for 
> >> users, but who knows, maybe that’s not the case.
> >> 
> >> thanks,
> >> 
> >> Cyrus
> >> 
> >> On Aug 29, 2014, at 4:38 AM, John May <john...@ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi all,
> >>> 
> >>> I was thinking we should move off 1.6 since it’s no longer supported. I 
> >>> would like to hop 1.7 and go straight to 1.8 since it’s been out a while 
> >>> but wanted some opinions. Would changing the JDK version cause problems 
> >>> for anyone?
> >>> 
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> John
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