Thank you John, as always your answer is much appreciated.

I came across this issue some years ago, so I am aware that this is
anything but simple. I'll certainly be very happy to test any
implementation and provide feedback :)

Uli Fechner

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On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 9:17 AM dpoly <da...@polyomino.com> wrote:

> This was a major issue for me too. I was trying to fix a starting config
> (such as a ring or backbone) and show visually the effect of progressively
> adding atoms or bonds or groups. Take a glucose molecule, deform it, add
> another, make sucrose (or fructose). It really doesn’t seem to be set up to
> make that at all easy.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> David M Bennett FACS
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>
> *From:* John Mayfield <john.wilkinson...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 18 January 2024 7:24 AM
> *To:* Uli Fechner <u...@pending.ai>
> *Cc:* cdkuser <cdk-user@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Cdk-user] structure layout alignment
>
>
>
> To clarify a bit more, CDK already has the APIs to "fix" part of a
> molecule. So you set the coordinates and then "fix" those atoms you can
> generate the rest. However you need to know which atoms to fix and what the
> coordinates should be.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 20:23, John Mayfield <john.wilkinson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Uli,
>
>
>
> There is an open issue on cdk/depict from Noel. I'll try and take a look
> this week but it's not quite as simple as you might think. For basic you
> would not want to align ring atoms to chain atoms, but also changes in
> hybridisation cause issues (e.g. a cumulene vs alkane might be mapped).
> Likewise you probably only want the largest continuous part aligned, what
> if there are disconnected parts, etc.
>
>
>
> Here is how I've done it in the past in our (NextMove's) SmallWorld tool:
> https://gist.github.com/johnmay/b51fd51e2870554afa00ee75f668e91a
>
>
>
> You can see I try and balance how aggressive you want the alignment to me.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 06:47, Uli Fechner <u...@pending.ai> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I would like to individually layout and then render several structures
> that are similar to each other (e.g., share a scaffold).
>
>
>
> Is there a way to ensure that these structures are not rotated, that is,
> that they are aligned in terms of their shared structural elements?
>
>
>
> And to take this one step further: ideally, I would like to do this using
> CDKDepict using its REST API interface. But that might be a separate
> question altogether.
>
>
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Uli
>
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