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>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat May 19 10:02:11 2001
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Subject: Re: ide-scsi  problem!

>From: "Mike A. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>On Thu, 17 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>>  Without ide cdrom support the kernel must add support for an entire
>>>SCSI subsystem, which is totally not needed on most systems. I can't see
>>>making this a standard, most systems just don't need it.
>>
>>Well most systems now include CD-writers and you need a SCSI subsystem
>>to make them work.

>While I disagree with that, I must point out most != all.  Are
>you suggesting that anyone not having a CD writer be abandoned as
>far as support is concerned?

        I see no sense in your mail.

It is completely unimportant whether all people have a CD writer!

There is a growing majority of people with a CD writer and people like e.g. Alan
Cox who don't understand what ATAPI is are going to force these people to live
with a badly structured and limited Linux kernel.

-       ide cdrom is limited and does not reflect reality

-       ide-scsi is _not_ limited but implemented buggy on Linux

You are saying the same thing as Alan Cox:

        Let us keep the bugs in ide-scsi & the SCSI cdrom driver on Linux because
        I do not realize any problem for _my_ personal work.

The right solution would be to fix the bugs in the existing ide-scsi + SCSI cdrom
solution. Then even people who do not understand the problem would prefer
this solutuion because it fits all their needs.

J�rg

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