On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>What? Try that again, I doubt you really mean that a corporation can't
>>hold a copyright outside the USA, since I have recent documentation
>>which certainly has corporate copyrights, coming from both the UK and
>>Germany. If you mean they want to take credit for your work, agreed,
>>they certainly have in some cases! If you are lucky they will recognize
>>you as a contributor somewhere down in the non-essential documentation.
>
>>But if it really illegal, please clarify a bit for those of us
>>unfamiliar with EU laws.
>
>First we should find a real english word for "Urheberrecht".

To perhaps bring some humor to the situation:

        "To clear one's throat"?

;o)

>Copyright does not met the meaning of the word as it only means the right
>to copy something. This right may of course be transferred.

I believe I know what it is that you refer to Joerg.  In Germany
if I am not mistaken, when you author something you retain an
irrevocable right to that software separate from copyright.  Is
this not correct?  If that is correct, then I do not believe
there is a parallel in North America.

>The problem is that all dictionaries I am aware of list
>Copyriht as english counterpart for Urheberecht. If you try to
>start with this equation, it looks different.
>
>Urheberrecht is the intellectual right on the work hold by the person who
>is the creator of the work. You are not allowed to transfer this right
>in Europe but from what I am aware of you may do it on USA.

Sounds like I understand you correctly.  ;o)


>If we could find a right english word for urheberrecht, and FSF only likes
>to get a non-exlusive right for creating copies / publishing, there is
>no problem.
>
>Could you help with the right word?

I'm afraid that I do not think there is one.  Perhaps
"Birthright" is as close as one could get, or "Copybirthright",
the latter being made up of course.

The FSF's guidelines are pretty clear I think.  I do not believe
they force you to give up your copyright, however I do know that
if you assign copyright to them they will handle any legal issues
that come up, and will also assign copyright back to you if ever
you want it back from what I recall last time I discussed
similar issues with Richard.

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